[Live-demo] OSGeoLive 6.5 Pre-release checkin
Alex Mandel
tech_dev at wildintellect.com
Tue Feb 19 00:02:27 PST 2013
FYI, I just completed a test run of the full iso build based on r10k.
It's a little large at ~5 GB. I'll look over the installer selection
tomorrow and adjust. Script appears to be working fine and all download
links succeeded.
I also added a note on how to do the process
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Build#Build_Full_ISO_from_Mini_ISO
Thanks,
Alex
On 02/16/2013 12:05 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
> Unless someone finds a show-stopper issue, I'm anticipating we will be
> releasing osgeo-live 6.5rc2 as final in 24 or 48 hours.
> I'd like to talk over final release details with the rest of our osgeo
> live community at our usual meeting slot in 24 hours (or 48 hours if key
> players are actually dipping into their non-virtual lives over the
> weekend).
>
> http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2013&month=2&day=17&hour=19&min=30&sec=0&p1=179&p2=224&p3=22&p4=240&p5=215
>
>
> On 17/02/13 06:44, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>> I agree with Angelos,
>>
>> Sounds like the ubuntu point release is unlikely to impact our
>> applications, and has some improvements we would benefit from.
>> Ie: Bugs fixed is expected to be greater than bugs introduced.
>>
>> On 17/02/13 03:51, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:
>>> Hi Brian,
>>>
>>> Some answers inline:
>>>
>>> On 02/16/2013 06:14 PM, maplabs at light42.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 17:53:16 +0200, Angelos Tzotsos
>>>> <gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> I have completed a new build based on 12.04.2 and it looks good so
>>>>> far.
>>>>> http://aiolos.survey.ntua.gr/gisvm/dev/osgeo-live-debug-build10000.iso
>>>>> This could be RC2 if we decide to make this extra step towards
>>>>> Secure Boot.
>>>>> I would like to hear more opinions about our options here. Hamish
>>>>> proposed another option on IRC yesterday:
>>>>> 4. Release RC1 as Final and do a 6.5.1 with the 12.04.2 Xubuntu
>>>>> base after a month or so, when more feedback will be available.
>>>>
>>>> from a testing point of view, you have to say, where are the risks?
>>>> e.g. What set of users and hardware are affected by the changes in
>>>> 12.04.2 ?
>>>
>>> Until RC1 we used Xubuntu 12.04.1 base iso and during *all* our
>>> builds we used "apt-get upgrade".
>>> This means all updates until the day we built RC1 are included
>>> (except kernel updates that were kept back to protect chroot
>>> environment)
>>> The new 12.04.2 base iso brings in updates that were released the
>>> last couple of days (Qt4, openJDK updates and a new kernel)
>>> The new kernel (3.2.0-37) brings support for Secure Boot and I
>>> seriously doubt that it would affect any software of our stack.
>>> OpenJDK update brings in the last *very critical* java patches that
>>> so much noise was made around the internet the last weeks. My opinion
>>> is that this is a serious security update and we should ship with it.
>>> Regarding Qt4 updates, small part of our stack is built on Qt and we
>>> can test those applications to check that they are not affected.
>>>
>>>> How could those be at risk given this change?
>>>
>>> Regarding hardware, I am not sure we ever tested on specific
>>> hardware. I feel that we always trust Ubuntu on this area. Why should
>>> this change now?
>>>
>>>>
>>>> internally, it is unlikely that application layer software is
>>>> affected much by
>>>> a tiny point change like that, but what might the interactions be?
>>>> Are there changes that effect any of the software stacks?
>>>
>>> I think this is covered above.
>>>
>>>> The rote way to test is to mechanically re-examine all bugs, and
>>>> re-examine all features, and re-examine all quickstarts, when there
>>>> is a platform change.. This is labor intensive and as noted, we dont
>>>> have the labor available to do that..
>>>
>>> I understand that we lack on the testing side, and yes we need more
>>> testers to make all the quality checks needed.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> It is always smart to characterize the nature of the delta, and use
>>>> insight to try to find where bugs and problems are likely to be...
>>>> Since Ubuntu Linux and the software on the Live is very complex,
>>>> I welcome the ideas of others to make good decisions about testing
>>>> to acheive quality, and decisions about change to lessen risk to
>>>> quality.
>>>
>>> I feel that since testing was only done so far by a small number of
>>> users, it would not be hard to run one more round of testing before
>>> release, but I really want to hear everybody's opinion on this.
>>>
>>>> best regards
>>>> -Brian
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Brian M Hamlin
>>>> OSGeo California Chapter
>>>>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Angelos
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Angelos Tzotsos
>>> Remote Sensing Laboratory
>>> National Technical University of Athens
>>> http://users.ntua.gr/tzotsos
>>>
>>>
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>>
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