[Live-demo] OSGeoLive 6.5 Status: Beta

Angelos Tzotsos gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com
Thu Jan 10 11:57:32 PST 2013 

Hi Peter,

please try this link:

http://webchat.freenode.net/

On 01/10/2013 09:53 PM, Peter Baumann wrote:
> ok, I'm there...
>
> On 01/10/2013 08:50 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>> Peter, we are on IRC discussing this now. Please join us if you are 
>> available:
>> irc://freenode.net#osgeolive
>>
>> On 11/01/13 06:41, Peter Baumann wrote:
>>> Hi Alex + all,
>>>
>>> hm, rasdaman is  Big Data Analytics engine (to use the common 
>>> buzzword used for data-scalable stuff today), so demoing on 100 kB 
>>> or so will be less convincing. So to allow a fair share of suitable 
>>> use cases for each tool, we'd need...not Petabytes, but a few 100 MB 
>>> are appreciated. Note that even tools not aligned in the massive 
>>> data sector have significant data sets on Live.
>>>
>>> just some thoughts,
>>> Peter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 01/10/2013 07:26 PM, Alex Mandel wrote:
>>>> Eventually, we'll get there... a few other factors come into play:
>>>> availability/cost of larger sticks ( 4 GB sticks are common and 
>>>> cheap )
>>>> and limited bandwidth in many places for the download (We're still
>>>> capped at 4.4 GB for a DVD). Both of those also push us in the 
>>>> direction
>>>> of smaller builds.
>>>>
>>>> At the same time we need to have some line to draw so that it doesn't
>>>> grow out of control either. Hence we've asked all apps to make samples
>>>> using the common datasets (which are open source data too - 
>>>> projects in
>>>> themselves).
>>>>
>>>> We already recommend 8 GB sticks so that people have extra space to 
>>>> make
>>>> a persistent stick and have space to save work.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Alex
>>>>
>>>> On 01/10/2013 10:13 AM, Beccati, Alan wrote:
>>>>> Angelos,
>>>>> I see you point there however,
>>>>>
>>>>> 1 - I am not sure how much effort will take to have the common 
>>>>> dataset loaded (if it not there already) and that will probably 
>>>>> also limit demonstration domains
>>>>> 2 - Keeping the current size is indeed an option but the issue is 
>>>>> that it didn't get loaded at all (still looking into the root 
>>>>> cause of that)
>>>>>
>>>>> As a final thought we have choice number 3: since OSGEOLive is 
>>>>> growing with many projects and as new applications come out they 
>>>>> will require even more space, why do not go directly for an 8GB 
>>>>> target that would fit both recent DVD and USB sticks (and users 
>>>>> will be happy to continue using such an usb stick afterwards and 
>>>>> will likely bring around the live logo on it).
>>>>>
>>>>> Alan
>>>>> _______________________________________________________________
>>>>>
>>>>> Commercial Registry: Amtsgericht Bremen, HRB 18 117
>>>>> President & Geschäftsführer Prof. Dr. Heinz-Otto Peitgen
>>>>> Provost & Geschäftsführerin Prof. Dr.-Ing. Katja Windt
>>>>> Chair Board of Governors: Prof. Dr. Karin Lochte
>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>> From: Angelos Tzotsos [gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com]
>>>>> Sent: 10 January 2013 18:14
>>>>> To: Beccati, Alan
>>>>> Cc: OSGeo Live Mailing List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Live-demo] OSGeoLive 6.5 Status: Beta
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Alan,
>>>>>
>>>>> In past releases the rasdaman demonstration data were reduced on 
>>>>> purpose
>>>>> (in collaboration with rasdaman members) because we are really very
>>>>> short of disk space.
>>>>>
>>>>> Right now we are at 3.5G which is near our up limit for creating a
>>>>> bootable USB stick.
>>>>> So I believe that there are 2 choices:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. to get rasdaman to use the common dataset (natural earth etc)
>>>>> 2. to keep the same size of rasdaman datasets as they are now. If you
>>>>> wish to change the data, it is ok, as soon as the target size is the
>>>>> same as before.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>> On 01/10/2013 06:43 PM, Beccati, Alan wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Angelos,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think next week would be better so we can break up the datasets 
>>>>>> and prioritize them if a reduction is needed meanwhile, we also 
>>>>>> have some pages on the demonstrator to update so the deadline for 
>>>>>> fixing them is still needed so we can verify them with the next 
>>>>>> beta build.
>>>>>> If you will still discuss that on IRC keep me posted please.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Alan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>> From: Angelos Tzotsos [gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com]
>>>>>> Sent: 10 January 2013 17:33
>>>>>> To: Beccati, Alan
>>>>>> Cc: Eike Hinderk Jürrens; OSGeo Live Mailing List
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Live-demo] OSGeoLive 6.5 Status: Beta
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Alan,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you want to discuss the data/disk space issue, please join us 
>>>>>> tonight
>>>>>> on IRC #osgeolive (Freenode) at 19:30 UTC, where we will have the 
>>>>>> weekly
>>>>>> meeting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Angelos
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 01/10/2013 06:24 PM, Beccati, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We are investigating our data load issue, do we have a schedule 
>>>>>>> / deadline for changes to get into the next beta build?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Alan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alan Beccati, PhD
>>>>>>> Post-doctoral Fellow
>>>>>>> Large-Scale Scientific Information Systems (L-SIS) Research Group
>>>>>>> Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH
>>>>>>> Research I, room 89
>>>>>>> Campus Ring 1
>>>>>>> 28759 Bremen
>>>>>>> Germany
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Office Jacobs University: +49 421 200 3187
>>>>>>> www.jacobs-university.de
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________________________
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Commercial Registry: Amtsgericht Bremen, HRB 18 117
>>>>>>> President & Geschäftsführer Prof. Dr. Heinz-Otto Peitgen
>>>>>>> Provost & Geschäftsführerin Prof. Dr.-Ing. Katja Windt
>>>>>>> Chair Board of Governors: Prof. Dr. Karin Lochte
>>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>>> From: live-demo-bounces at lists.osgeo.org 
>>>>>>> [live-demo-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] on behalf of Eike Hinderk 
>>>>>>> Jürrens [e.h.juerrens at 52north.org]
>>>>>>> Sent: 08 January 2013 14:56
>>>>>>> To: OSGeo Live Mailing List
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Live-demo] OSGeoLive 6.5 Status: Beta
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 07.01.2013 20:32, schrieb Angelos Tzotsos:
>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1. We kindly request *all projects* that are included in 
>>>>>>>> OSGeoLive to
>>>>>>>> *test* this first beta and make a complete run of their Quickstart
>>>>>>>> guide. We feel that if a user fails to complete a Quickstart 
>>>>>>>> guide,
>>>>>>>> this would reflect badly to the project and the live disk, so 
>>>>>>>> we need
>>>>>>>> to run a full round of QA at this stage. Please report your 
>>>>>>>> findings
>>>>>>>> through Trac [5] and status spreadsheet [6]
>>>>>>> 52nSOS -> done
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>> Kind regards and happy new year,
>>>>>>> Eike
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> Eike Hinderk Jürrens
>>>>>>> 52°North Initiative for Geospatial Open Source Software GmbH
>>>>>>> Martin-Luther-King-Weg 24
>>>>>>> 48155 Münster, Germany
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Angelos Tzotsos
>>>>>> Remote Sensing Laboratory
>>>>>> National Technical University of Athens
>>>>>> http://users.ntua.gr/tzotsos
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Angelos Tzotsos
>>>>> Remote Sensing Laboratory
>>>>> National Technical University of Athens
>>>>> http://users.ntua.gr/tzotsos
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>


-- 
Angelos Tzotsos
Remote Sensing Laboratory
National Technical University of Athens
http://users.ntua.gr/tzotsos

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