[Live-demo] Request for inclusion in OSGeo Live - Iris

Cameron Shorter cameron.shorter at gmail.com
Thu Jun 13 14:49:24 PDT 2013

Based upon comments so far, I believe that we should certainly include 
Iris should be included on OSGeo-Live, such that you can use OSGeo-Live 
in your foss4g workshops.

I'm personally think that we should hold off on linking IRIS into our 
main documentation until a future release, after IRIS has built up more 
of a community, however I'm open to being convinced otherwise.

On 13/06/13 21:32, Ian Edwards wrote:
> Thank you all for the comments (and for the offers of support)
> The issues that Cameron raises are very important, and as a user of 
> OSGeo Live I personally agree that each of these points should be 
> carefully considered.
> 1. Is the project too specialised for the vast majority of people who 
> pick up OSGeo-Live?
> Iris is powerful and specialised but it also has benefits for the 
> whole range of OSGeo Live users. Our workshop at FOSS4G 2013 is aimed 
> at both experienced developers and at complete beginners (e.g. users 
> who are new to python) 
> http://2013.foss4g.org/provisional/workshops#W15. In the workshop we 
> will demonstrate how the underlying plotting library (based on 
> python's matplotlib) can be used for batch processing of multiple 
> cartographic plots for any use case.
> As a comparison: WCS is perceived as complex and specialist compared 
> to WMS. Libraries such as Iris have a very important role to play for 
> handling multidimensional data (including detailed meta data within 
> the file) from many sources and fit well with both OGC standards and 
> other OSGeo packages.
> 2. Is it seriously used outside of UK Met Office?
> Massimo has given one independent example of Iris being in use 
> internationally, his message to the list also shares our excitement 
> about integration into the OSGeo stack (we have use cases for ncWMS, 
> GeoServer, PyCSW and ZOO-Project and it's likely that either we, or 
> the community, will develop a QGIS plugin to provide an easier 
> interface to the library). The development of the software (and the 
> LGPL licence) was specifically to enable use outside of the Met Office 
> and to promote easy collaboration among users.
> 3. We need to be careful that we don't include every project looking 
> for a community
> I agree with this statement the most. In this case we're not looking 
> for a community/home – we're interested in integrating with the rest 
> of the open source stack that we belong to, and in supporting the 
> community to work effectively with emerging technologies like WCS 2.0 
> and NetCDF.
> 4. Maybe IRIS would be a better candidate to join OSGeo-Live in a 
> future release?
> The case will certainly be stronger when we can demonstrate many 
> examples of Iris integrating into the full software stack. Our reason 
> for applying now is because a) integration work is already well under 
> way, but it will be easier (for the rest of the community) by making 
> the library easily available alongside the rest of the stack, b) we 
> want to ensure the software is available alongside GeoServer and QGIS 
> for our FOSS4G workshop – we could make our own live DVD... but it 
> would be based on OSGeo Live and we'd loose the benefit of having the 
> library available to other conference attendees who are interested in 
> the presentations and also the wider OSGeo community.
> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 9:17 AM, Hamish <hamish_b at yahoo.com 
> <mailto:hamish_b at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>     Cameron wrote:
>     > Maybe IRIS would be a better
>     > candidate to join OSGeo-Live in a future release?
>     IRIS 1.3 needed 3.3mb of disk space. I assume 1.4.0 is not too
>     dissimilar, and that the support and demo files don't alter that
>     requirement drastically.
>     We just managed to free up 150-200mb disk space (shared libs for
>     MB-System amongst others), and I will sponsor and take care of
>     adding an install_iris.sh script on the disc for the Nottingham
>     workshop if one is provided to me.
>     you guys can figure out if you want an overview page for it or not
>     linked on the front page list of projects, but it's a bit of a
>     no-brainer to me to install the software and a quickstart (linked
>     or not) in the background regardless.
>     regards,
>     Hamish

Cameron Shorter
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