[Live-demo] [Workshops] OSGeoLive in FOSS4G 2014 workshops?
Larry Shaffer
larrys at dakotacarto.com
Sat Jun 7 10:47:09 PDT 2014
Hi,
QGIS's Processing plugin does support GRASS 7.0 beta, alongside of 6.4.3.
The GRASS-specific plugin only works with 6.4.3. On Mac, via Homebrew
package manager, I have these installed side-by-side, but 7.0 is installed
to a custom prefix, with only the grass70 executable on PATH. That prefix
directory can be set in QGIS for the Processing GRASS 7.0 provider via the
options dialog.
Could not GRASS 7.0 beta also be installed on OSGeoLive, but to a custom
prefix, since such a prefix is easily handled with GRASS environment
variables and QGIS settings? The Processing plugin provider for GRASS 7.0
will be part of the released QGIS 2.4.
Regards,
Larry Shaffer
Dakota Cartography
Black Hills, South Dakota
On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Alex Mandel <tech_dev at wildintellect.com>
wrote:
> No it's unlikely that QGIS will be ready to work with GRASS 7 that
> quickly. There are major changes to GRASS that require overhauls of QGIS
> connectors, and how to implement GRASS 7 support is quite debated on the
> qgis-dev list.
>
> While stable, GRASS 7 is actually in beta status not release.
>
> My recommendation is that we add a script for GRASS 7 but do not enable
> it by default. For the workshop the best idea is to plan to use the
> osgeo-live base install and simply add the GRASS 7 install to it for
> that VM before cloning the VM to the machines.
>
> Can GRASS 6 and 7 from debs install side-by-side cleanly?
>
> Thanks,
> Alex
>
> On 06/07/2014 04:04 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
> > Thanks for the clarification Micha,
> > To date we only have one version of each application installed on
> > OSGeo-Live, and I don't think we should break that policy. (We aim to
> > ensure a clear and simple experience for new users).
> > So I think we should only have one version of GRASS installed. Maybe
> > QGIS could be fixed to work with GRASS 7.0 within the next month?
> >
> > Or alternatively, a install_grass7.sh script could be included on the
> > disk, and workshop instructions would start with "first run the
> > install_grass7.sh script ..."
> >
> > On 7/06/2014 8:46 pm, Micha Silver wrote:
> >>
> >> On 07-Jun-14 12:17 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
> >>> Hi Vaclav,
> >>> Great to hear that you are considering OSGeo-Live.
> >>> Our policy [1] with OSGeo-Live is to only ship stable versions,
> >>> rather than the latest alpha release, and we'd be wanting at least a
> >>> beta release by feature freeze, and prefer a stable release at that
> >>> time.
> >>>
> >>> Will there be a stable 7.0 release of GRASS before FOSS4G?
> >>>
> >> GRASS 7.0 is certainly stable (even tho' the official stable release
> >> is 6.4.3). And there are deb packages for Ubuntu available. THe
> >> problem will be that QGIS still refers to GRASS 6.4 in its GRASS
> >> plugin, so if we installed GRASS 7.0 there would be 2 versions on the
> >> disk taking up a bit of extra disk space.
> >> --
> >> Micha
> >>
> >>> There are a few other options open to you. Eg: You could use an
> >>> OSGeo-Live base, and download/update to the latest version of GRASS
> >>> as the first step of your workshop.
> >>>
> >>> [1]
> >>>
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project#Which_version_to_use.3F
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 2:42 AM, Vaclav Petras <wenzeslaus at gmail.com
> >>> <mailto:wenzeslaus at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 4:30 AM, Cameron Shorter
> >>> <cameron.shorter at gmail.com <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hello FOSS4G Workshop presenters and organisors,
> >>>
> >>> Our OSGeoLive team have started our build process for
> >>> OSGeoLive 8.0, due to be released at FOSS4G 2014.
> >>> If workshop presenters are considering making use of
> >>> OSGeoLive, then please do let us know.
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> we are definitively considering OSGeoLive but for our
> >>> spatio-temporal GRASS workshop [1], we need something like
> >>> "latest GRASS". It has to be GRASS GIS 7, probably 7.0.0-beta3
> >>> which is not out yet [2]. Would it be possible to include this
> >>> beta if it would be released before freeze?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Vaclav
> >>>
> >>> [1] https://2014.foss4g.org/schedule/workshops/#wshop-content-526
> >>> [2]
> http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/grass-dev/2014-May/069110.html
> >>>
> >>> 1. It is very motivating for our team to hear where osgeolive
> >>> is being used.
> >>>
> >>> 2. We are keen to understand if there are any requests you
> >>> have that we should consider for this release.
> >>>
> >>> 3. We have a feature freeze scheduled [1] for 30 days time,
> >>> on 6 July 2014. I'm hoping this will provide projects with
> >>> sufficient time to incorporate features they would like
> >>> demonstrated in workshops? If not, please talk with us.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> [1] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#Schedule
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -- Cameron Shorter,
> >>> Software and Data Solutions Manager
> >>> LISAsoft
> >>> Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf,
> >>> 26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009
> >>>
> >>> P +61 2 9009 5000 <tel:%2B61%202%209009%205000>, W
> >>> www.lisasoft.com <http://www.lisasoft.com>, F +61 2 9009
> >>> 5099 <tel:%2B61%202%209009%205099>
> >>>
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> >>> --
> >>> --
> >>> Cameron Shorter,
> >>> Software and Data Solutions Manager
> >>> LISAsoft
> >>> Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf,
> >>> 26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009
> >>>
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