[Live-demo] Submit New Project - MapIgniter2
Marco Afonso
mafonso333 at gmail.com
Sat Nov 28 03:45:26 PST 2015
Hi all,
I realised that the exclusion o MapIgniter2 was based on giving a lot of
weight to 1 criteria (project's comunity).
Let me make two important questions:
1. Whats are the weights of each criteria? (You can even create a formula
based on criteria weights).
2. Would it be more democratic and fair the project admission, using a
voting system?
Thanks :)
Em 28/11/2015 11:33, "Angelos Tzotsos" <gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com> escreveu:
> Also, the disk size question is highly relevant... we are still keeping an
> OSGeo graduated project out of the disk due to enormous disk footprint....
> :(
>
> On 11/28/2015 01:27 PM, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:
>
>> Hi Daniel,
>>
>> I agree that we need to help new projects. This is indeed one of the
>> roles of OSGeo-Live. The questionnaire is there to identify some aspects of
>> the incoming projects, not to act like an incubation process. But we also
>> need to filter what is somehow mature and stable. In my opinion the only 2
>> questions that should block an incoming software are the licensing and the
>> stable release questions. I recall I was rejected inclusion of pycsw until
>> we reached v1.0 and this helped the pycsw team to focus on doing a stable
>> release.
>>
>> I always ask the incoming project to provide an installer to add under
>> the beta folder. On the next release, a user can easily install a beta
>> project by running the installer from the live system and be able to test
>> the software. This also provides time to review documentation and do the
>> translations needed.
>>
>> So I would like to see both MapIgniter2 and OpenEarthView provide and
>> maintain their installers according to our packaging standards as beta
>> projects for 9.5 and include them as stable in a later release.
>>
>> Best,
>> Angelos
>>
>>
>> On 11/28/2015 08:05 AM, Daniel Kastl wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Cameron,
>>>
>>> At the time when OSGeo Live started, no project had to answer a
>>> questionnaire, that almost looks like a "Mini application for
>>> incubation". So I think there are quite a few installed on OSGeo Live,
>>> that wouldn't qualify with the rules you're setting now:
>>> http://live.osgeo.org/en/overview/overview.html
>>>
>>> I can understand the frustration of some, who would like to make their
>>> project available on OSGeo Live to reach out to more users. Because this
>>> might be actually a way to build a community. We could help them to
>>> achieve something, that is pretty difficult and can take years.
>>>
>>> So I'm not sure we have to be so strict in terms of community and
>>> maturity.
>>> We should be more strict in how software is installed (ie. providing
>>> packages) and that there is someone maintaining the project for OSGeo
>>> Live.
>>>
>>> Just some thoughts,
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 28/11/15 14:43, clement at igonet.fr wrote:
>>>
>>>> That's the answer I got for OpenEarthView project...
>>>>
>>>> OsGeoLive is made for user only, not at all to help starting promising
>>>> projects.
>>>>
>>>> That's frustrating.
>>>>
>>>> They get the good part of free and open source projects, refusing to
>>>> take the risk of helping new ones.
>>>>
>>>> What to say... That's not the open source (and open mind) philosophy...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Le 26 novembre 2015 19:28:14 UTC+01:00, Cameron Shorter
>>>> <cameron.shorter at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> Hi Marco,
>>>> It sounds like you have the start of a good project.
>>>> However, my feeling is that has not yet reached the maturity of
>>>> the other projects we have on OSGeo-Live.
>>>> In particular, we help new users answer the questions:
>>>> * What good open source GIS projects are out there?
>>>> * What is everyone else using?
>>>>
>>>> What I suggest working on is getting a stronger answer to the
>>>> second question.
>>>> Aim to build up a community behind your project.
>>>> Look to get your project used by many organisations.
>>>> Aim to attract developers from these organisations.
>>>> I know this is a tough ask, and often takes years to attract such
>>>> a community.
>>>> But attracting a community is the true test of whether a project
>>>> is valuable or not.
>>>>
>>>> Apache has a good page about building a community which might be
>>>> worth a read:
>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/community.html
>>>>
>>>> On 26/11/2015 6:39 am, Marco Afonso wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Alex,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for your reply.
>>>>>
>>>>> Follows the MapIgniter application request to integrate OSGeo
>>>>> Live. As we can see, this is a very recent project but with very
>>>>> good technological background to evolve and specially satisfy
>>>>> user needs.
>>>>> I hope it can be accepted. If work has to be done, I'm on it!
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Marco
>>>>>
>>>>> *Please describe your application.
>>>>>
>>>>> What is its name?*
>>>>> It's name is MapIgniter2. The name came from previous release,
>>>>> where it was based on CodeIgniter PHP framework.
>>>>>
>>>>> *What is the home page URL?*
>>>>> The project's home is hosted on GitHub at
>>>>> https://github.com/taviroquai/mapigniter2
>>>>>
>>>>> *Which OSI approved Open Source Licence is used?*
>>>>> It uses the MIT license.
>>>>>
>>>>> *What does the application do and how does it add value to the
>>>>> GeoSpatial stack of software?*
>>>>> MapIgniter is a GeoCMS which combines web mapping features with
>>>>> Content Management System (CMS) features. It is a browser-based
>>>>> software, or more commonly refered as a web application. The main
>>>>> purpose of this software is to let users publish Geographic
>>>>> Information on the Internet / Intranet on a free and Open Source
>>>>> platform. Considering that there are other Open Source web
>>>>> mapping platforms, MapIgniter distinguishes it self, and adds
>>>>> value to GeoSpatial stack software, by being powered by cutting
>>>>> edge Javascript and PHP frameworks/libraries, providing the best
>>>>> tools for creating modern web applications.
>>>>> *
>>>>> *
>>>>>
>>>>> *Does the application make use of OGC standards? Which versions
>>>>> of the standards? Client or server? You may wish to add comments
>>>>> about how standards are used.*
>>>>> This software makes use of a subset of OGC standards; currently
>>>>> WMS and WFS. Specific version numbers can be configured by the
>>>>> user. MapIgniter backoffice interface allows to configure these
>>>>> OGC service parameters to be used by OpenLayers 3 (frontend web
>>>>> mapping library).
>>>>>
>>>>> *What language is it written in?*
>>>>> The default interface language is English. Also includes
>>>>> Portuguese language files. Any idiom can be added later. This is
>>>>> a feature of the PHP Laravel Architecture which is the PHP
>>>>> Framework that powers this software.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Which version of the application should be included in the next
>>>>> OSGeo-Live release?*
>>>>> MapIgniter2 targets release 1.0 for the next release of
>>>>> OSGeo-Live.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Stability is very important to us on OSGeo-Live. If a new user
>>>>> finds a bug in one application, it will tarnish the reputation of
>>>>> all other OSGeo-Live applications as well. (We pay most attention
>>>>> to the following answers):
>>>>>
>>>>> If risk adverse organisations have deployed your application into
>>>>> production, it would imply that these organisations have verified
>>>>> the stability of your software. Has the application been rolled
>>>>> out to production into risk (ideally risk adverse) organisations?
>>>>> Please mention some of these organisations?*
>>>>> The number of organisations using MapIgniter2 is unknown. Mainly
>>>>> because this is a very recent software. Although, being
>>>>> MapIgniter built upon Laravel 5.1 and OpenLayers 3, these two
>>>>> frameworks have proven it's success in web development
>>>>> applications it's usage by a number of companies.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please see
>>>>> Laravel Jobs https://larajobs.com/?partner=5#/
>>>>> Openlayers Sponsors http://openlayers.org/sponsors.html
>>>>>
>>>>> *Open HUB provides metrics to help assess the health of a
>>>>> project. Eg:
>>>>> http://adhoc.osgeo.osuosl.org/livedvd/docs/en/metrics.html Could
>>>>> you please ensure that your project is registered with Open HUB,
>>>>> and Open HUB has been updated to reference the correct code
>>>>> repository(s) for your project. What is the Open HUB URL for your
>>>>> project?*
>>>>> The Open Hub URL is https://www.openhub.net/p/mapigniter2
>>>>>
>>>>> *What is the size of the user community? You can often answer
>>>>> this by mentioning downloads, or describing a healthy, busy email
>>>>> list?*
>>>>> MapIgniter2 has no community yet. The previous release has 10
>>>>> forks on GitHub, 19 starred and 9 people watching the repository.
>>>>> The Google groups has been some activity since 2012 until April
>>>>> 2015 from several users.
>>>>>
>>>>> *What is the size of your developer community?*
>>>>> Currently there is one developer.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Do you have a bug free, stable release?*
>>>>> Not yet.
>>>>> *
>>>>> *
>>>>> *Please discuss the level of testing that your project has gone
>>>>> through.*
>>>>> There will be automated tests in soon.
>>>>>
>>>>> *How long has the project has had mature code.*
>>>>> The project is very recent.
>>>>>
>>>>> *OSGeo-Live is targeted at applications that people can use
>>>>> rather than libraries. Does the application have a user interface
>>>>> (possibly a command line interface) that a user can interact
>>>>> with? (We do make an exception for Incubated OSGeo Libraries, and
>>>>> will include Project Overviews for these libraries, even if they
>>>>> don't have a user interface.)*
>>>>> Yes the software works on a web browser interface.
>>>>>
>>>>> *We give preference to OSGeo Incubated Projects, or Projects
>>>>> which are presented at FOSS4G conferences. If your project is
>>>>> involved in OSGeo Incubation, or has been selected to be
>>>>> presented at FOSS4G, then please mention it.*
>>>>> Previous release of MapIgniter was presented to the OSGeo
>>>>> Portuguese community on the 16th November 2012.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please see
>>>>> http://www.osgeo.org/node/1318
>>>>> http://osgeopt.pt/eventos/sasig5.markdown/
>>>>> *
>>>>> *
>>>>> *With around 50 applications installed on OSGeo-Live, us core
>>>>> packagers do not have the time to liaise with every single
>>>>> project email list for each OSGeo-Live release. So we require a
>>>>> volunteer (or two) to take responsibility for liaising between
>>>>> OSGeo-Live and the project's communities. This volunteer will be
>>>>> responsible for ensuring the install scripts and English
>>>>> documentation are updated by someone for each OSGeo-Live release.
>>>>> Also test that the installed application and Quickstart
>>>>> documentation works as expected on release candidate releases of
>>>>> OSGeo-Live. Who will act as the project's liaison person.*
>>>>> *
>>>>> OSGeo-Live is Ubuntu Linux based. Our installation preference is:
>>>>>
>>>>> Install from UbuntuGIS or DebianGIS
>>>>> Install .deb files from a PPA
>>>>> Write a custom install script
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you please discuss how your application will be installed.*
>>>>> *MapIgniter is a web mapping application based on PHP Laravel 5.1
>>>>> Framework. Laravel framework runs over Apache2 or Nginx web
>>>>> servers. MapIgniter system requirements matches Laravel 5.1
>>>>> requirements.*
>>>>> MapIgniter install procedure is similar to Laravel install
>>>>> procedure. It can be manually installed by using the instructions
>>>>> documented in MapIgniter GitHub repository. Also, there is an
>>>>> install script (linux) that automates the install process. Just
>>>>> enter onto Apache public folder and run from shell
>>>>> curl
>>>>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/taviroquai/mapigniter2/master/install.sh
>>>>> | sudo sh
>>>>>
>>>>> Please see
>>>>> Laravel Documentation http://laravel.com/docs/5.1
>>>>> Install script
>>>>> https://github.com/taviroquai/mapigniter2/blob/master/install.sh
>>>>>
>>>>> *OSGeo-Live is memory and disk constrained. Can the application
>>>>> run in 512 Meg of RAM?*
>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>
>>>>> *How much disk space will be required to install the application
>>>>> and a suitable example application?*
>>>>> Approximately 38 Mbytes.
>>>>>
>>>>> *We aim to reduce disk space by having all applications make use
>>>>> of a common dataset. We encourage applications to make use of the
>>>>> example datasets already installed:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project#Example_Datasets
>>>>> If another dataset would be more appropriate, please discuss
>>>>> here. Is it appropriate, to remove existing demo datasets which
>>>>> may already be included in the standard release.*
>>>>> Examples datasets provided by OSGeo Live are fine to be used with
>>>>> MapIgniter. Optimum data is with native Web Mercator projection.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Each OSGeo-Live application requires a Project Overview
>>>>> available under a CC By and a Quickstart available under a CC
>>>>> By-SA license. (You may release under a second license as well).
>>>>> Will you produce this?*
>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>
>>>>> *In past releases, we have included Windows and Mac installers
>>>>> for some applications. It is likely we won't have space for these
>>>>> in future releases. However, if there is room, would you be
>>>>> wishing to include Windows and/or Mac installers?*
>>>>> Yes, Windows installer.
>>>>> *
>>>>> *
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2015-11-25 17:01 GMT+00:00 Alex Mandel
>>>>> <tech_dev at wildintellect.com <mailto:tech_dev at wildintellect.com>>:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/25/2015 08:24 AM, Marco Afonso wrote:
>>>>> > Hi,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I would like to submit a new project for OSGeo-Live.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > The project in case is MapIgniter2.
>>>>> > Here is the home of the project:
>>>>> https://github.com/taviroquai/mapigniter2
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I would like to know what are the requirements and
>>>>> procedures to be
>>>>> > accepted to integrate OSGeo Live.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> Marco,
>>>>>
>>>>> Reply to this thread with the answers to the following
>>>>> questions:
>>>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_Apply
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The expanded details of adding new projects is documented at:
>>>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Alex
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Marco Afonso
>>>>> http://goo.gl/ZDtQjm
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Cameron Shorter,
>>>> Software and Data Solutions Manager
>>>> LISAsoft
>>>> Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf,
>>>> 26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009
>>>>
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