[Live-demo] VM startup option request, add in Network checker.

Wed Feb 17 12:05:19 PST 2016

Angelos,

I was thinking something like:

“No network has been configured”

Assuming an easy check of the Network is possible in an automated way.  Then maybe a link to the wifi docs at the end?

We did some testing from a guest laptop in secured wifi office setting.  Most new users will likely try something like this in their office for example, and it’s not obvious that the network needs to be managed upon first start up.  I agree that a DHCP setup is likely to work just fine out of the box.  Shooting at the lowest common denominator here unfortunately.

bobb

On Feb 17, 2016, at 1:51 PM, Angelos Tzotsos <gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com<mailto:gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com>> wrote:

Thanks Jim for the clarification.

Sorry, I had the wrong impression that the bug report was about wired network :)
About wifi drivers missing, yes it is confusing for new users... would a popup message be enough to explain what to do?
Perhaps a sentence in the existing popup pointing to a wifi how-to in our documentation?

On 02/17/2016 09:41 PM, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) wrote:

All,

Making new thread.  Consolidated the thread here.

Sorry about that everyone.

bobb

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From: Jim Klassen <jklassen at sharedgeo.org<mailto:jklassen at sharedgeo.org><mailto:jklassen at sharedgeo.org><mailto:jklassen at sharedgeo.org>>
Date: February 17, 2016 at 1:36:19 PM CST
To: live-demo at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:live-demo at lists.osgeo.org><mailto:live-demo at lists.osgeo.org><mailto:live-demo at lists.osgeo.org>
Subject: Re: [Live-demo] Live 9.5 desktop image candidate

This should probably be its own thread, but just to add some
clarification.

The no networking issue generally occurs when people boot the USB on
their computer (not in a VM) and they are expecting to use WiFi and
either the WiFi drivers aren't available or they don't realize they need
to select and authenticate to a network.

Note: Wired networks could theoretically have the similar issued but in
practice tend to just work (or just don't get used as often).

On 02/17/2016 10:33 AM, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:
Hi Bob,

It seems you experience a problem with the network configuration.
By default the live system network works fine for me behind a DHCP
server.

I think we could add some more details about how to configure
networking in our installation documents in case someone else faces
the same issue as you do.
I am not sure though about a popup. We already have a popup with
generic info to the user about where to get help and password file
location.

Best,
Angelos

On 02/15/2016 07:18 PM, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) wrote:
All,

So, we’ve been handing out Live OSgeo thumb drives for a couple of
years now, and we’ve put a bit of work into explaining how to get up
and running with it to new users.  We hand out a getting started card
for example.

One item that we wanted to run past the list for, is an addition to
the VM start screen. The idea is to  add a Network checking process
to the interface, something that pops up a dialog to explain that
there is no network configured.

Most people who have experience with setting up computers know to
check something like this, even in a VM, but your average new user of
a VM, doesn’t know by default that they also need to configure the
network for the VM after is starts.

Thoughts?

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