[Live-demo] [Marketing] FOSS4G-Europe 2017: OSGeoLive on USB stick

Jody Garnett jody.garnett at gmail.com
Tue Jun 20 08:10:45 PDT 2017


That is cool, I might recommend including osgeo live as a VM then, rather
than as a bootable USB stick. It should also be cheaper to order with that
setup.

What is the timeframe Guido (for example when are the academic papers
available to you?)

--
Jody Garnett

On 20 June 2017 at 08:08, Guido Stein <gstein at appgeo.com> wrote:

> Hey folks,
>
> FOSS4G Boston plans on creating USB sticks for all the workshop attendees
> and potentially for all the conference attendees. We want create a OSGeo
> Live USB, but we also need to include academic papers from our conference.
> We plan on paying for these ourselves.
>
> I have expressed interest in helping others by adding our order to others
> in order to bring the cost down, but at this point I think we are now
> needing something special and our order is going to be on our own. That
> said, if anyone can recommend a provider for USB sticks I am all ears and
> appreciate the help.
>
> -Guido
>
> On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 10:36 AM Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Brian and Guido:
>>
>> Chatting with Marc about marketing budget and trying to see what events
>> we can ask the marketing committee to support.
>>
>> When you say "we will be printing some kind of USB storage with
>> branding" is that:
>> a) The OSGeo Live project (does it have budget for printing).
>> b) The marketing committee printing (should we balance need for new booth
>> with USB printing)
>>
>> Guido has expressed interest in having USB sticks at FOSS4G Boston.
>> Gérald has expressed interest in having sticks at FOSS4G Europe. I am
>> not sure if either of these two events has budget to work with or not?
>>
>> --
>> Jody Garnett
>>
>> On 6 June 2017 at 14:56, Brian M Hamlin <maplabs at light42.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Guido -  we just discussed this at the weekly project meeting on
>>> Freenode #osgeolive. We will be printing some kind of USB storage with
>>> branding.. the details will be decided,
>>> roughly by the end of June. thanks for your organizing work
>>>
>>>   best regards from Berkeley, Califorina
>>>    --Brian M Hamlin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 06 Jun 2017 18:39:06 0000, Guido Stein <gstein at appgeo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> So, does this mean anyone is makig a USB run or not?
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 8:18 PM Brian M Hamlin <maplabs at light42.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> So - USB Sticks
>>>
>>>   TL;DR
>>> I am hesitant to recommend building Boot USBs at this time.. It will
>>> take at least one test printing before committing to a run, if
>>> and when we do.
>>> We can print USBs, probably a majority of people who receive them will
>>> be able to boot a laptop,
>>> others will need to use an ISO in Virtual Box or similar. FYI
>>> -
>>>   The USB Sticks format is not the same animal as the DVD was.. We made
>>> many DVDs and handed them out, over several versions.. the
>>> process was reliable,
>>> the options clear and the pricing competitive,,  We screen printed the
>>> DVDs, bought commodity covers,
>>> and the product could be built in a timely way by one of several
>>> vendors..
>>>   The USB Sticks are not the same..   We have not made many runs of
>>> them..
>>>   Technically, I am finding that there are at least two challenges.. One
>>> is the UEFI-Boot and signed kernel,
>>> and that would be the same for a DVD format.. but the Second is .. that
>>> many hardware platforms now seem
>>> to be treating USB boot as a vector for attack.. The user may have to
>>> choose at the BOOT BIOS level
>>> to allow the booting, and even then it is not clear to me that all the
>>> details on boot are being made public. Low-cost windows laptops and also
>>> very expensive server motherboards
>>> seem to both be behaving this way.
>>>   The Live has implemented a proces that should allow the UEFI-Boot
>>> with a signed kernel to work.. but it is hard
>>> to get right.. the DVD in later versions suffered from this also..
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 02 Jun 2017 18:31:42 0000, Guido Stein <gstein at appgeo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I believe that there is budget for the sticks in Boston, but I think
>>> that is tied to the workshop folks only currently.
>>> That all said, if you could price this out, I will figure out how to
>>> help.
>>> -Guido
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 5:03 PM Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> If we did a large "printing run" in north america for foss4g and foss4g
>>> europe I could bring a batch to foss4g europe.
>>> --
>>> Jody Garnett
>>>
>>> On 1 June 2017 at 13:58, Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm looping in the OSGeo-Live list.
>>> In particular, I suspect Brian Hamlin will have some valuable advice on
>>> creating OSGeo-Live USBs as he has gone through this process a few
>>> times.
>>> Brian might even be able to recommend a company to create the USBs for
>>> you.
>>> Cheers, Cameron
>>>
>>> On 2/6/17 4:39 am, Fenoy Gerald wrote:
>>>
>>> Jody,
>>> we shall be able to afford the empty USB Stick.
>>> Gérald Fenoy
>>> gerald.fenoy at geolabs.fr
>>> FOSS4G-Europe 2017 Conference Chair
>>> https://europe.foss4g.org/2017/
>>>
>>> Le 1 juin 2017 à 20:41, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>
>>> Yeah that is like 1/2 our marketing budget for the year; and we are
>>> going to have a lot of expenses ordering new booth stuff.
>>> Is there a chance the conference registration fee can cover USB stick
>>> purchase?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jody Garnett
>>>
>>> On 1 June 2017 at 04:37, Fenoy Gerald <gerald.fenoy at geolabs.fr> wrote:
>>> Dear Jody,
>>> thanks a lot for your answer.
>>> I have contacted a french company that provide usb stick printing. Their
>>> proposal is like this: for 300 USB sticks it will cost almost
>>> 2000 € when for 400 the cost will go to 2600€.
>>> Nevertheless, I am now wondering. Indeed, from what I can remember,
>>> during the FOSS4G in Bonn there was an OSGeo Booth that was providing
>>> the OSGeoLiveDVD USB sticks. This may be the best option. Indeed, in
>>> case OSGeo is coming to the FOSS4G-Europe with OSGeoLive USB sticks, it
>>> means that we may be able to manage the usb print on our own budget as
>>> it may cost less (as the usb stick size will decrease and the file to
>>> put on the usb stick will be easier to setup, there is no double
>>> partition anymore and so on, still I think that lower than 8go usb
>>> stick won’t be a real use to anybody).
>>> I think that it would be just perfect if OSGeo can have a booth at the
>>> FOSS4G-Europe 2017 for distributing the OSGeoLive USB stick.
>>> Gérald Fenoy
>>> gerald.fenoy at geolabs.fr
>>> FOSS4G-Europe 2017 Conference Chair
>>> https://europe.foss4g.org/2017/
>>>
>>> Le 19 mai 2017 à 17:52, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>
>>> Gérald:
>>>
>>> To proceed we would need to get a better idea of costs involved. I know
>>> you have a hard cap on attendees of 400 - how many sticks would you be
>>> printing and do you have a quote we can work from?
>>>
>>> Are we sharing this cost with the LOC? OSGeo live is bootable so it
>>> cannot really be used to easily give people a copy of the event program
>>> (unless you make a partition I guess).
>>> I would like to considers USB sticks as part of our expense in
>>> attending the event - while they are a good tool they are only one of
>>> the tools available. --
>>> Jody
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 3:10 AM Fenoy Gerald <gerald.fenoy at geolabs.fr>
>>> wrote:
>>> Dear marketing committee,
>>> I would like to know if it is possible for the FOSS4G-Europe 2017 LOC
>>> to ask the OSGeo marketing committee for some fund to handle the USB
>>> stick production to give to every attendees.
>>> The USB stick should contains OSGeoLive and the program associated with
>>> the event. The USB Sticks will then be used during the workshops,
>>> mainly for those that ask attendees to come with their own computer but
>>> it may also be used in other workshops also.
>>> I hope to hear back from you.
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Gérald Fenoy
>>> gerald.fenoy at geolabs.fr
>>> FOSS4G-Europe 2017 Conference Chair
>>> https://europe.foss4g.org/2017/
>>>
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