[OSGeoLive] My late contribution to todays meeting

Tue Nov 28 12:48:55 PST 2017

Hello all:

Here is my response and bellow its "the Oracle" response

I didn't imply that it was a problem, I made the experiment, and it took me
around 1/2 day to finish my experiment, and most of our pages are the press
releases:
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Category:Live-demo
I think that more than 50% I moved already to trac (with a lot of links
fixed, and many more to fix, when everything that is ours goes there)

The Code is on: OSGeoLive repo not on OSGeoLive-doc repo
So, we have to repos, then 2 wikis? I don't like that idea.
I prefer one trac wiki that covers both repos.

I find this annoying on Github wiki: you can't add images directly to the
wiki, I normally use issues to add the image and then put it in the wiki.
This also is annoying: its so narrow.
I compare the "looks" of pgRouting wiki with PostGIS wiki and I like
postGIS wiki more.
https://trac.osgeo.org/postgis/wiki
https://github.com/pgRouting/pgRoutingLayer/wiki

In any case for GitHub wiki.. probably the need to change the mediawiki to
the wiki stylecan be skipped (bakaniko copied/pasted from github wiki to
media wiki and had to change format)
And the copy/paste still is needed (unless someone knows how to do it
automatically)
Links have to be fixed, because the implicit links will no longer apply.

Here is the "Oracle responding" ;)

"I see in Vicky's future going to SAC channel and asking about a mediawiki
of our own"

Vicky

On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 2:15 PM, Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I'm not so keen on the Trac wiki. I agree is it good to have the wiki next
> to other information about the project, but as I notice from Vicky's
> comments, it seems translating to the Trac wiki format is a problem.
>
> Another logical place to put the wiki would be next to the code, on
> github. Doing a 5 minute search I found this page:
> https://guides.github.com/features/wikis/
> It describes how you can use a github wiki, and make use of a wide range
> of wiki formats which I assume would include the mediawiki format we
> currently use. I'd suspect if we googled further we'd find an import tool
> as well.
>
> So I'd like to consult "the Oracle", ie "the Vicky" (and others) to hear
> whether that would be a good idea?
>
>
> On 28/11/17 10:55 am, Vicky Vergara wrote:
>
> Hello all
>
> Sorry that I cold not be in the meeting today, I had a presentation to a
> group of students in a University in Mexico at the time of the meeting.
>
> About his presentation I used OSgeoLive project as follows:
> In front of the students I talked about how PSC members have to approve PR
> regardless if the PR is from a casual contributor or a volunteer or from
> other PSC member, emphasising in that it is important for keeping a high
> quality in the FOSS project. For this I used this PR as an example:
> https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc/pull/348
>
> About the meeting:
> I noticed that the meeting main part was about using OSGeoLive trac's wiki
> or to have our own wikimedia
>
> In any case I started experimenting on the trac's wiki and "moved" some
> mediawiki pages to the trac's wiki.
> Note that I consider this as an experiment so:
> - OSGeo mediawiki I did not touch
> - I made copy/paste (no date preservation)
> - darkblue-b started categorizing OSGeo wiki pages so that we can find the
> pages that belong to our project
>
> Here are the pages on trac's wiki that I experimented on
> In this one:
> https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/wiki/Use_History
> comers from this one:
> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_History
>
> I successfully changed the links of the contact names by adding an
> "osgeowiki" entry here:
> https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/wiki/InterMapTxt
>
> In this one:
> https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/wiki/Press%20Release%20List
> only has the press releases of this section
> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#Press_Releases
> This other ones has blog entries that are mixed up on the press releases
> https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/wiki/Press%20Blogs
>
> Besides adding manually by copy paste all the press releases, so no dates
> are preserved, if you know how to do it preserving dates please be my guest
> on teaching me, took me one day to copy and reformat to the trac's wiki
> mark up language
>
> I first added this year's press releases, but after that I started adding
> from the first press release. (kind of simulating the date preservation by
> adding the first one before the second one and so on)
>
> On some press releases I tried to fix some links, but some are broken. So
> I just thought I wont bother to fix links yet, because this is an
> experiment.
>
> A small clarification:
>
> I didn’t say I want pgRouting wiki pages on OSGeo wiki, I said:
>
> 01:17:20cvvergara:Sorry, so you are implying that for example: I shall put
> pgRouting wiki pages on OSGeo wiki because then I can get more visitors?
> http://irclogs.geoapt.com/osgeolive/%23osgeolive.2017-11-26.log
>
> Fortunately, as a project, pgRouting has its own wiki, unfortunately right
> now OSGeoLive don't have it's own wiki. we use OSGeo wiki but we don’t have
> our own.
>
>
> I apologize because I was not around in the meeting to clarify and write
> up my concerns.
> I am there now, if you want to ask things.
>
> Vicky
> PS I love bencaradocdavies because of this comment :) :) :)
> 19:59:47bencaradocdavies:darkblue_b, I do not think we have a quorum, and
> more importantly, we do not have a Vicky.
>
>
>
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