From klassen.js at gmail.com Mon Dec 2 21:05:02 2024 From: klassen.js at gmail.com (Jim Klassen) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2024 23:05:02 -0600 Subject: [pdal] Trouble reading some 3DEP tiles in PDAL In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <889228a6-5e75-4d4c-ac32-ada1f4c3da67@gmail.com> Closing the loop on this one.? The USGS was able to correct the bad 3DEP tiles.? Thanks for the help diagnosing the issue. On 9/12/24 10:14, Andrew Bell wrote: > lasinfo reports more information on these, but PDAL is correctly > telling you what is wrong. > > On Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 11:11?AM Andrew Bell wrote: >> I believe that PDAL is correctly reporting these files as invalid. >> >> On Wed, Sep 11, 2024 at 3:00?PM Jim Klassen via pdal >> wrote: >>> I'm getting errors reading some 3DEP tiles with "pdal info". There are several of each type, but this is trimmed to one example of each. My main question is if these are invalid LAZ files and/or is there an issue with the PDAL LAZ reader. Tried with pdal 2.7.1 and 2.8.0. >>> >>> USGS_LPC_MN_BeckerCounty_2021_D21_264_5209.laz : PDAL: readers.las: Extra byte specification exceeds point length beyond base format length. >>> USGS_LPC_MN_BeckerCounty_2021_D21_265_5209.laz : PDAL: readers.las: Invalid file signature. Was expecting 'LASF', Check the first four bytes of the file. (this one looks corrupt) >>> USGS_LPC_MN_SE_Driftless_2021_B21_4195_49005.laz : PDAL: readers.las: Invalid version 1468 found in LAZ chunk table. >>> USGS_LPC_MN_SE_Driftless_2021_B21_448_______________________________________________ >>> pdal mailing list >>> pdal at lists.osgeo.org >>> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/pdal >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Andrew Bell >>> andrew.bell.ia at gmail.com >>> >>> 0_49125.laz : PDAL: readers.las: Invalid version 1464 found in LAZ chunk table. >>> >>> Source Files: >>> https://rockyweb.usgs.gov/vdelivery/Datasets/Staged/Elevation/LPC/Projects/MN_BeckerCounty_2021_D21/MN_BeckerCo_1_2021/LAZ/USGS_LPC_MN_BeckerCounty_2021_D21_264_5209.laz >>> >>> https://rockyweb.usgs.gov/vdelivery/Datasets/Staged/Elevation/LPC/Projects/MN_BeckerCounty_2021_D21/MN_BeckerCo_1_2021/LAZ/USGS_LPC_MN_BeckerCounty_2021_D21_265_5209.laz >>> >>> https://rockyweb.usgs.gov/vdelivery/Datasets/Staged/Elevation/LPC/Projects/MN_SE_Driftless_2021_B21/MN_SEDriftless_5_2021/LAZ/USGS_LPC_MN_SE_Driftless_2021_B21_4195_49005.laz >>> >>> https://rockyweb.usgs.gov/vdelivery/Datasets/Staged/Elevation/LPC/Projects/MN_SE_Driftless_2021_B21/MN_SEDriftless_5_2021/LAZ/USGS_LPC_MN_SE_Driftless_2021_B21_4480_49125.laz >>> _______________________________________________ >>> pdal mailing list >>> pdal at lists.osgeo.org >>> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/pdal >> >> >> -- >> Andrew Bell >> andrew.bell.ia at gmail.com > > From howard at hobu.co Wed Dec 4 07:02:18 2024 From: howard at hobu.co (Howard Butler) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2024 09:02:18 -0600 Subject: [pdal] PDAL Zulip at https://pdal.zulipchat.com Message-ID: <8774F6C6-EA2A-459B-874D-21EB036107F4@hobu.co> All, PDAL had a gittr org, but their ToS and feature mix is maybe not so good these days. I have started up a PDAL Zulip at https://pdal.zulipchat.com if you want to asynchronously chat about PDAL topics. Howard From runette at gmail.com Fri Dec 13 03:05:36 2024 From: runette at gmail.com (Paul Harwood) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2024 11:05:36 +0000 Subject: [pdal] PDAL Zulip at https://pdal.zulipchat.com In-Reply-To: <8774F6C6-EA2A-459B-874D-21EB036107F4@hobu.co> References: <8774F6C6-EA2A-459B-874D-21EB036107F4@hobu.co> Message-ID: Goodie - yet another chat application with impossibly complicated access rituals! Life was getting a bit boring anyway :) Apparently, one needs an invite to access that "Zulip". Is that what you intended? Can I get one? On Wed, 4 Dec 2024 at 15:02, Howard Butler via pdal wrote: > All, > > PDAL had a gittr org, but their ToS and feature mix is maybe not so good > these days. I have started up a PDAL Zulip at https://pdal.zulipchat.com > if you want to asynchronously chat about PDAL topics. > > Howard > _______________________________________________ > pdal mailing list > pdal at lists.osgeo.org > https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/pdal > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From howard at hobu.co Fri Dec 13 04:59:11 2024 From: howard at hobu.co (Howard Butler) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2024 06:59:11 -0600 Subject: [pdal] PDAL Zulip at https://pdal.zulipchat.com In-Reply-To: References: <8774F6C6-EA2A-459B-874D-21EB036107F4@hobu.co> Message-ID: <4D34F0B6-34E6-400E-ABE3-A97534FF4C72@hobu.co> > On Dec 13, 2024, at 5:05?AM, Paul Harwood wrote: > > Goodie - yet another chat application with impossibly complicated access rituals! Life was getting a bit boring anyway :) It should be as simple as joining with your GitHub credential, no? > > Apparently, one needs an invite to access that "Zulip". Is that what you intended? 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Life was getting a bit boring anyway :) > > > It should be as simple as joining with your GitHub credential, no? > > > Apparently, one needs an invite to access that "Zulip". Is that what you > intended? Can I get one? > > > I intended that anyone can join with their GitHub account. > _______________________________________________ > pdal mailing list > pdal at lists.osgeo.org > https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/pdal > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Life was getting a bit boring anyway :) >> >> It should be as simple as joining with your GitHub credential, no? >> >>> >>> Apparently, one needs an invite to access that "Zulip". Is that what you intended? Can I get one? >> >> I intended that anyone can join with their GitHub account. >> _______________________________________________ >> pdal mailing list >> pdal at lists.osgeo.org >> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/pdal -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I rejiggered the configuration to hopefully allow public access. > On Dec 13, 2024, at 8:44?AM, Howard Butler wrote: > > https://github.com/OSGeo/PROJ/pull/4349 > >> On Dec 13, 2024, at 7:55?AM, Darrin Holst wrote: >> ? >> >> That's from logging in with my github credentials >> >> On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 6:59?AM Howard Butler via pdal > wrote: >>> >>> >>>> On Dec 13, 2024, at 5:05?AM, Paul Harwood > wrote: >>>> >>>> Goodie - yet another chat application with impossibly complicated access rituals! Life was getting a bit boring anyway :) >>> >>> It should be as simple as joining with your GitHub credential, no? >>> >>>> >>>> Apparently, one needs an invite to access that "Zulip". Is that what you intended? 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I rejiggered the configuration to hopefully allow > public access. > > On Dec 13, 2024, at 8:44?AM, Howard Butler wrote: > > https://github.com/OSGeo/PROJ/pull/4349 > > On Dec 13, 2024, at 7:55?AM, Darrin Holst wrote: > > [image: CleanShot 2024-12-13 at 07.53.41 at 2x.png] > > That's from logging in with my github credentials > > On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 6:59?AM Howard Butler via pdal < > pdal at lists.osgeo.org> wrote: > >> >> >> On Dec 13, 2024, at 5:05?AM, Paul Harwood wrote: >> >> Goodie - yet another chat application with impossibly complicated access >> rituals! Life was getting a bit boring anyway :) >> >> >> It should be as simple as joining with your GitHub credential, no? >> >> >> Apparently, one needs an invite to access that "Zulip". Is that what you >> intended? 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I rejiggered the configuration to hopefully allow >> public access. >> >> On Dec 13, 2024, at 8:44?AM, Howard Butler wrote: >> >> https://github.com/OSGeo/PROJ/pull/4349 >> >> On Dec 13, 2024, at 7:55?AM, Darrin Holst wrote: >> >> [image: CleanShot 2024-12-13 at 07.53.41 at 2x.png] >> >> That's from logging in with my github credentials >> >> On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 6:59?AM Howard Butler via pdal < >> pdal at lists.osgeo.org> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Dec 13, 2024, at 5:05?AM, Paul Harwood wrote: >>> >>> Goodie - yet another chat application with impossibly complicated access >>> rituals! Life was getting a bit boring anyway :) >>> >>> >>> It should be as simple as joining with your GitHub credential, no? >>> >>> >>> Apparently, one needs an invite to access that "Zulip". Is that what you >>> intended? 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I have done so and will report back if it is approved. This is why people are not able to get into it. Howard -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gdt at lexort.com Fri Dec 13 09:23:36 2024 From: gdt at lexort.com (Greg Troxel) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2024 12:23:36 -0500 Subject: [pdal] PDAL Zulip at https://pdal.zulipchat.com In-Reply-To: <8E80D1A0-80B5-4208-864D-EA3F1B9F4287@hobu.co> (Howard Butler via pdal's message of "Fri, 13 Dec 2024 10:46:52 -0600") References: <8E80D1A0-80B5-4208-864D-EA3F1B9F4287@hobu.co> Message-ID: Howard Butler via pdal writes: >> What?s wrong with just having discussions on this mailing list? It?s >> not like this list is extremely high volume and it is hard to keep >> track of. > > Nothing and the mailing list is the primary communication medium, but > I know that not everyone is comfortable posting on mailing lists, and > I was looking to provide an alternative venue for asynchronous chat. By way of introduction, I'm not really using pdal yet (I hope to deal with USGS LIDAR data for micromapping), but hope to in the future. I maintain the gdal, proj, geos, postgis, qgis and a few others in pkgsrc. My $0.02 from being on many Free Software projects: I get it why some people like chat, but the discipline of actually composing mail tends to keep the S/N ratio higher. I find that I cannot stand to follow most chats. I think Free Software projects should only use Free tools, and not expect people to enter into agreements with non-charitable third parties to participate. (I know this argues against github.) These days, that tends to lead to matrix. (Because IRC seems too hard for the people that don't like mailinglists.) osgeo already has a matrix homeserver, and it seems that one could have #pdal:osgeo.org and avoid the entire third party system. Yes, people need a matrix account on some system, but not any particular system, and they can self-host if they want. From howard at hobu.co Mon Dec 16 11:04:15 2024 From: howard at hobu.co (Howard Butler) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2024 13:04:15 -0600 Subject: [pdal] PDAL Zulip at https://pdal.zulipchat.com In-Reply-To: References: <8E80D1A0-80B5-4208-864D-EA3F1B9F4287@hobu.co> Message-ID: <91B2F3F3-3698-4C1F-B45B-B8A87D310AC8@hobu.co> > On Dec 13, 2024, at 11:23?AM, Greg Troxel via pdal wrote: > > osgeo already has a matrix homeserver, and it seems that one could have > #pdal:osgeo.org and avoid the entire third party system. Yes, people > need a matrix account on some system, but not any particular system, and > they can self-host if they want. Done. Let's do OSGeo's Matrix instead of Zulip. I didn't have strong opinions either way. The reason I put forward Zulip was due to Conda Forge's policy [1] on it. OSGeo's Matrix can work just fine for us going forward. 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