[postgis-devel] trunk == 2.0.1

Sat Apr 7 12:51:47 PDT 2012

Hi Paul,

Yes, this seems a better solution, I agree. I will try to keep this 
package naming scheme as long as possible.

Backwards breaking is something that sometimes cannot be avoided. I 
recall having some issues myself moving from Postgres 8.x to 9.1 and yes 
it can be a surprise to the users. But when moving to a new major 
version number can be expected :)

Thank you for your great job.

Regards,
Angelos

On 04/06/2012 09:10 PM, Paul Ramsey wrote:
> This is better, less/no likelihood of folks borking their systems with
> a simple upgrade command. I think you'll have to retain 'postgis2' for
> quite a long time though. For example 'gd2' as a package name for gd
> 2.X lasted a good five years until 'gd' for gd 1.X was phased out
> enough to safely re-use the name. I'm not sure if 'libxml2' has even
> managed yet to transition and take over the 'libxml' package name.
>
> This is our own fault for backwards breaking. I'm post-facto trying to
> think if there was some way I could have retained a compatibility
> layer for old serializations, but don't think so. Fortunately we have
> a few bits in 2.0 which will allow us to do versioning for for a few
> future releases and thereby alter some aspects of the serialization
> without having to dump/reload.
>
> P.
>
> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 7:04 PM, Angelos Tzotsos<gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com>  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> The repository is now as suggested:
>> postgis links to 1.5.3 and postgis2 links to 2.0.0.
>>
>> This will stay like that until our next official release 12.2 (July) so that
>> users will have time to upgrade.
>>
>> Is this ok?
>>
>>
>> Angelos
>>
>> On 04/06/2012 03:31 AM, Paul Ramsey wrote:
>>> The key here is that folks can just go "upgrade postgis" (whatever the
>>> command it) and end up w/ a non-working system. We want them to go
>>> "get postgis2" and then go through the migration steps. Is that
>>> doable?
>>> P
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Angelos Tzotsos<gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com>
>>>   wrote:
>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your suggestion.
>>>>
>>>> Actually I did something different here:
>>>> The published name of the package is the same, so there is a
>>>> postgis-1.5.3.rpm and a postgis-2.0.0.rpm at the same time.
>>>> The name postgis1 is just internal to OBS. Using 'postgis2' would have
>>>> the
>>>> same result...
>>>>
>>>> Angelos
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 04/06/2012 03:12 AM, Chris Hodgson wrote:
>>>>> I think that releasing the postgis 2.0.0 package as "postgis2" is a
>>>>> better
>>>>> approach, as you really don't want people to be able to automatically
>>>>> replace their postgis 1.5 with postgis 2.0.0.
>>>>>
>>>>> Creating postgis1 packages will just force everyone to go through this
>>>>> nasty process... that said, for anyone who has already "upgraded" to
>>>>> 2.0.0
>>>>> using your packages, they will need the postgis1 package to go back and
>>>>> fix
>>>>> things.
>>>>>
>>>>> What a mess!
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12-04-05 04:49 PM, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:
>>>>>> I have now created 'postgis1' as a branch of 1.x
>>>>>> Hope to get this working in a while.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 04/06/2012 02:38 AM, Paul Ramsey wrote:
>>>>>>> Yeah, maybe it needs to be packaged as 'postgis2' so that people can
>>>>>>> install both versions simultaneously to make upgrading simpler...?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 3:31 PM, Angelos Tzotsos<gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>   wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi Paul,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for the heads up.
>>>>>>>> A possible work around would be to host some 1.5.x binaries on
>>>>>>>> another
>>>>>>>> repository, since OpenBuildService does not archive old versions of
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> rpms.
>>>>>>>> Since OBS uses version control, I can get the latest 1.5.x postgis
>>>>>>>> version
>>>>>>>> up and running elsewhere. Perhaps we could advertise this solution in
>>>>>>>> postgis documentation somewhere, so that people can see it?
>>>>>>>> I will see if there can be any name convention (like postgis1) for
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> old
>>>>>>>> version, but this could lead to some other troubles...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I will get back with a plan for this.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Angelos
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 04/05/2012 11:55 PM, Paul Ramsey wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Angelos, see this
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/22945/postgis-2-0-upgrade-problem-with-postgres-data
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is there any way to warn people as they upgrade, because 2.0 is not
>>>>>>>>> backwards compatible with 1.5. They need to dump their database
>>>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>>>> they upgrade and run it through postgis_restore.pl while loading it
>>>>>>>>> back into 2.0.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> P.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Angelos
>>>>>>>>> Tzotsos<gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>   wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> OK, no one can hear us :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 04/03/2012 11:15 PM, Paul Ramsey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. Sssssh :)
>>>>>>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>> P
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Angelos
>>>>>>>>>>> Tzotsos<gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>   wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Paul,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I assumed this is the final:
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://postgis.org/download/postgis-2.0.0.tar.gz
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Angelos
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 04/03/2012 11:11 PM, Paul Ramsey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are all the versions numbers correct? What did you package off
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> haven't released the tarball yet...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> P.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Angelos
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tzotsos<gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 04/03/2012 10:39 PM, Paul Ramsey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Devs,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have tagged 2.0.0. I have not branched a 2.0 yet. I would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hold 2.0 development on trunk until we do a 2.0.1 release. At
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point we can create a 2.0 branch and bring new features online
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trunk.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Uploading and preparing text now for release announcement.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> P.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have completed packaging of v2.0 for openSUSE.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Waiting the announcement to release the rpms :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Angelos
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Angelos Tzotsos
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Remote Sensing Laboratory
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> National Technical University of Athens
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://users.ntua.gr/tzotsos
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