[postgis-users] postgis, postgresql and geological data

Thomas, Cord cthomas at rand.org
Wed Dec 17 09:22:10 PST 2003


Dennis,

i am a little hazzy on your goal.  i believe you want to see a plan view showing your well points on a 'map' of geologic features, correct?  is the idea that you want to be able to select a single well, have the map locate that well and show geologic/hydrogeologic features near that well - or to show a map of all drilled wells, characteristics of each well (date drilled, depth to bottom) and then use the bore hole findings to map stati (show depth to clay on all maps to get the elevation of clay in a region - to compare against USGS findings)?  also, the question is, what 'features' do you want to see?

The question of which class of data to use, DLG, DEM, etc. depends both on what you want to see in the 'map' and what software you have to look at the data.  All these data sets have geographic coordinates, and would be used as a 'base map' showing regional information surrounding each well.  

DEMs would be used to show elevation information, but you need modeling software to see the actual relief, 
DOQQ would be used to show pretty pictures based on dated aerial flights - nice, but don't really add 'data' 

Cord

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On Wednesday 17 December 2003 10:12 am, Doug_Newcomb at fws.gov wrote:
> Dennis,
>       You might check with your local USGS-WRD office,
> http://water.usgs.gov/admin/wrd-dir/OH.html#HDR0 ,  to see about local
> geological GIS data layers  and their existing well database  ( I believe
> it's called NWIS) .   

Thanks for the link, I will check that out.

> You will probably not be able to get the detailed 
> information  that it sounds like you want for each well from a generalized
> geological GIS data layer.  From what I understand, drillers keep logs on
> how deep they go and what kind of substrate they encounter as they drill (
> x feet of sand, x feet of clay  ,etc. ) .  If your brother-in-law has such
> information for each well, you can attach it to the geographic points.
>

Yes, I know (or assumed) the detail information probably is not available. 
Though I did find a web site I could input a well log report (for Ohio) and 
get some general info about it, but not what I was looking for.

Yes I have the detailed well information from my brother-in-law he submits to 
the state so it's just a matter of creating the appropriate tables and 
importing that data. A good portion of the well data he has already put into 
the cheesy database I made so he could look up customer/well info.

So the actual well data is a minor concern, it's finding the approriate data 
set (?) to use so when a well is selected, it's lat/long is placed correctly 
over the map. 

Another confusing aspect is which do I use? There's DLG's, DEM's, DOQQ's just 
to name a few.

My biggest problem is wrapping my brain around this. After monitoring this 
mail list for a good while some of the issues I have seen dealing with 
geometry, datasets, etc are more or less exactly beyond me. Not that will 
stop me trying, this will either be a success or a colossal waste of my 
time. :)


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> Some background about what I want to do and hopefully someone can point me
> in
> the right direction. My brother-in-law drills water wells and some time ago
> I
> created a customer database so he could look up information about the well
> he
> drilled. The idea I have is to create a database of geological data for
> water
> well drillers and merge/link it to a database of their customers. The state
>
> of Ohio now requires the well driller to include the latitude and longitude
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> of the new well when he submits his report to the state agency.
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> Other information they provide on that state report are the underburden
> layers
> they drill through, such as, dirt, clay, sand, gravel, clay/sand,
> gravel/sand, etc.
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> He has well records going back to when his father was in the same business
> (about 50 years worth). So in general the goal is to take a wells
> longitude/latitude and overlay that with a map of what was drilled through
> to
> create the well.
>
> My confusion is where to find existing geological data that I can use as a
> basis, can such data be imported (easily) into Postgis/Postgresql and well,
>
> there are a number of other things but I don't want to make this post to
> long.
>
> Any thoughts, pointers or suggestions are greatly appreciated.
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> "Trying"? My contribution was much closer to a "feeble wave in the general
> direction of something that might lead you one step closer to a solution
> if you squint really hard and do all of the work."
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"Trying"? My contribution was much closer to a "feeble wave in the general 
direction of something that might lead you one step closer to a solution 
if you squint really hard and do all of the work."

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