[postgis-users] ERROR: ExteriorRing: geom is not a polygon

Andreas Laggner andreas.laggner at fal.de
Tue Oct 2 03:44:32 PDT 2007


Hi Regina,

how can i be sure to have only one polygon in each multipolygon in a 
dataset with thousends of polygons? Exists a function to verify that?

hasta luego      Andreas


Obe, Regina schrieb:
> Yes you do.  ST_ExteriorRing only deals with Polygons not multipolygons or geometry collections.
>
> There are 2 ways to do it.
>
> 1) If you have a multipolygon and you are sure you only have one polygon in each multipolygon, then you can do
>
> SELECT ST_ExteriorRing(ST_GeometryN(the_geom,1))
> FROM ffh_rep 
>
> 2) If you really have multipolygons and you want the exterior ring of each polygon - it's a bit trickier.  Try
>
> SELECT ST_ExterionRing(ST_GeometryN(the_geom, generate_series(1, ST_NumGeometries(the_geom)))
> FROM ffh_rep
>
> If you have a set of GeometryCollection hmm that's even trickier.  I would guess 2 layers of series - let me know if that is the case.
>
> Hope that helps,
> Regina
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: postgis-users-bounces at postgis.refractions.net [mailto:postgis-users-bounces at postgis.refractions.net] On Behalf Of Andreas Laggner
> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 7:00 AM
> To: PostGIS Users Discussion
> Subject: [postgis-users] ERROR: ExteriorRing: geom is not a polygon
>
> Moin users,
>
> i get an error starting with this query (i want to overlay tables 
> according to this 
> http://postgis.refractions.net/support/wiki/index.php?ExamplesOverlayTables
>
> CREATE TEMP TABLE all_lines AS
>    SELECT St_ExteriorRing (the_geom) AS the_geom FROM ffh_rep
>    UNION ALL
>    SELECT St_ExteriorRing (the_geom) AS the_geom FROM spa_rep;
>
> ERROR: ExteriorRing: geom is not a polygon
>
> do i have to force my source data to be polygons? How can i do that?
>
> cheers      Andreas
>
>
>
>
>
> Obe, Regina schrieb:
>   
>> Not sure I quite understand the question.  You mean to store these 3 geometries separately so you can color code as needed or overlay as needed?
>>
>> In that case you would have 3 separate geometry fields
>>
>>   intersection(ffh_rep.the_geom, spa_rep.the_geom) As geomintersection, ffh_rep.the_geom As ffh_geom, spa_rep.the_geom As spa_geom
>>
>> For the ones where there is only udo or kai then I guess you can fill in the same geometry for all geometry fields.
>>
>>
>> and then overlay them on your map as separate layers as needed
>>
>> or if you mean you just want it to look like figure 1 but not necessarily color coded, then you would do
>>
>> collect(ffh_rep.the_geom, spa_rep.the_geom) as geomcollection
>>
>> Hope that helps,
>> Regina
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: postgis-users-bounces at postgis.refractions.net [mailto:postgis-users-bounces at postgis.refractions.net] On Behalf Of Andreas Laggner
>> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 7:24 AM
>> To: PostGIS Users Discussion
>> Subject: Re: [postgis-users] Union of 7 datasets
>>
>> Moin Regina,
>>
>> the query you suggested is a very big step forward, but it does not 
>> exactly what i want to have  ;-)  ...  it seems to me i will need an 
>> intersection in one part and not a geomunion!! But i want to ask you:
>> what it does correctly: I now have a union of all geometries from both 
>> source datasets.
>> If i have a single udo (ffh_rep) that intersects no kai (spa_rep) the 
>> row only has the attributes from udo. Same thing i have with single kai. 
>> That is all correct.
>> BUT: If udo and kai intersects i will not have new polygons!! For 
>> example: blue is udo (or ffh_rep) and yellow is kai (or spa_rep). I want 
>> to have three polygons than with blue only the attributes from udo, 
>> yellow only the attributes from kai AND the intersection, polygon number 
>> 3, the green one (blue with yellow points) with the attributes from udo 
>> and kai (figure1). And now i have one Polygon having the attributes from 
>> udo and kai (figure2).
>>
>> figure1:
>> figure1
>>
>> figure2:
>>
>> figure2
>>
>>
>> My query:
>> drop table natura2000;
>> create table natura2000
>>     (ffh_name character varying(80),ffh_land character varying(3),ffh 
>> smallint,ffh_id smallint,
>>      spa_name character varying(80),spa_land character varying(3),spa 
>> smallint,spa_id smallint)
>>     with oids;
>> select 
>> addgeometrycolumn('','natura2000','newgeom','31467','MULTIPOLYGON',2);
>> alter table natura2000 drop constraint enforce_geotype_newgeom;
>>
>> insert into natura2000 
>> (ffh_name,ffh_land,ffh,ffh_id,spa_name,spa_land,spa,spa_id,newgeom)
>>  select ffh_rep.ffh_name,ffh_rep.ffh_land,ffh_rep.ffh,ffh_rep.ffh_id,
>>     spa_rep.spa_name,spa_rep.spa_land,spa_rep.spa,spa_rep.spa_id,
>>     geomunion(ffh_rep.the_geom, spa_rep.the_geom) as newgeom
>>   from ffh_rep inner join spa_rep
>>     on (ffh_rep.the_geom && spa_rep.the_geom and 
>> intersects(ffh_rep.the_geom, spa_rep.the_geom))
>>     union all
>>  -- the second select gives you ffh_reps that have no spa_reps - your 15
>>    select ffh_rep.ffh_name,ffh_rep.ffh_land,ffh_rep.ffh,ffh_rep.ffh_id,
>>       null as spa_name, null as spa_land, null as spa, null as spa_id,
>>       ffh_rep.the_geom as newgeom
>>    from ffh_rep left join spa_rep
>>     on (ffh_rep.the_geom && spa_rep.the_geom and 
>> intersects(ffh_rep.the_geom, spa_rep.the_geom))
>>     where spa_rep.the_geom is null
>>     union all
>>  -- and the 3rd gives you spa_reps that have no ffh_reps. - your 40
>>     select  null as ffh_name, null as ffh_land, null as ffh, null as ffh_id,
>>         spa_rep.spa_name,spa_rep.spa_land,spa_rep.spa,spa_rep.spa_id,
>>         spa_rep.the_geom AS newgeom
>>     from spa_rep left join ffh_rep
>>     on (ffh_rep.the_geom && spa_rep.the_geom and 
>> intersects(ffh_rep.the_geom, spa_rep.the_geom))
>>     where ffh_rep.the_geom is null;
>>
>> Cheers    Andreas
>>
>>
>>
>> Obe, Regina schrieb:
>>   
>>     
>>> Andreas,
>>>
>>> You would use the SQL UNION predicate like shown below (actually 
>>> slight correction - it is speedier to use UNION ALL especially when 
>>> you know there will not be dupiclates since it saves the processing of 
>>> sorting to get a distinct UNION does an implicit distinct)  - so I 
>>> have corrected below.
>>>
>>> -  - I happened to insert comments in between which may have confused 
>>> you, but you should be able to run the whole thing as one statement or 
>>> if you prefer because of speed issues run each insert separately.
>>>
>>> So  would be
>>> INSERT INTO sometable(field1, field2,field3,field4, newgeom)
>>>  SELECT udo.field1, udo.field2, kai.field3, kai.field4, 
>>> geomunion(udo.the_geom, kai.the_geom) AS newgeom
>>>   FROM udo INNER JOIN kai ON (udo.the_geom && kai.the_geom AND 
>>> intersects(udo.the_geom, kai.the_geom))
>>>   UNION ALL
>>>  -- the second select gives you udos that have no kais - your 15
>>>   SELECT udo.field1, udo.field2, NULL As field3, NULL As field4, 
>>> udo.the_geom AS newgeom
>>>   FROM udo LEFT JOIN kai ON (udo.the_geom && kai.the_geom AND 
>>> intersects(udo.the_geom, kai.the_geom))
>>>   WHERE kai.the_geom IS NULL
>>>  UNION ALL
>>>  -- and the 3rd gives you kais that have no udos. - your 40
>>>   SELECT NULL As field1, null As field2, kai.field3, kai.field4, 
>>> kai.the_geom AS newgeom
>>>   FROM kai LEFT JOIN udo ON (udo.the_geom && kai.the_geom AND 
>>> intersects(udo.the_geom, kai.the_geom))
>>>   WHERE udo.the_geom IS NULL;
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> ----If FULL JOIN were to work (which in theory it should, but doesn't 
>>> seem to with Postgis functions  (HINT HINT: would be nice if 
>>> that worked and can be easily fixed (but sadly I think the issue is 
>>> deeper than Postgis and Geos) - you could write the above much simpler as)
>>>
>>> INSERT INTO sometable(field1, field2,field3,field4, newgeom)
>>>  SELECT udo.field1, udo.field2, kai.field3, kai.field4, 
>>> COALESCE(geomunion(udo.the_geom, kai.the_geom), udo.the_geom, 
>>> kai.the_geom) AS newgeom
>>>   FROM udo FULL JOIN kai ON (udo.the_geom && kai.the_geom AND 
>>> intersects(udo.the_geom, kai.the_geom))
>>>
>>> Now if you have a lot of these and the tables are very similar in 
>>> nature and named in a predictable way then the way I usually handle it 
>>> is to write a pgsql function that dynamically generates the SQL 
>>> statement to execute either via a FOR loop and then executes the built 
>>> SQL or set of SQL statements or you could do a similar thing in some 
>>> scripted language like perl or php.
>>>
>>> I take it SQL and pgsql and all that is fairly new to you so it might 
>>> be worthwhile (even though its a lot of typing) to do it the long cut 
>>> and paste way if nothing more than an exercise to get a feel of how 
>>> this all works and visualize the patterns at play.
>>>
>>> I don't get the sense that I comprehend your full problem.   
>>> Unfortunately I don't have any experience with ArcGIS/ArcView ways of 
>>> doing things, so I'm not quite sure if there is an equivalent way in 
>>> PostGIS/PostgreSQL  world of doing the same kind of thing and what 
>>> exactly that thing is you are doing in ArcGIS.
>>>
>>> Union has 3 meanings in PostGIS/PostgreSQL (actually stuff your 
>>> favorite spatial/DB here - all non-trivial spatial relational dbs 
>>> behave more or less the same)  
>>>
>>> 1) unioning of record sets (standard ANSI SQL UNION/UNION ALL) - which 
>>> is simply a way of stringing together a bunch of selects into a 
>>> single result set as shown above
>>>
>>> 2)  unioning of 2 geometry fields like shown above with geomunion
>>>
>>> 3) Aggregate  geomunion - aggregate variant of the above geomunion 
>>> function that groups and unions a whole setof geometries together but 
>>> requires you are grouping by some field or set of fields).
>>>
>>> I must also mention there is collect (non-aggregate and aggregate 
>>> function) which often times is just as effective as the geomunion and 
>>> in general much faster processor wise.
>>>
>>> Hope that helps,
>>>
>>> Regina
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: postgis-users-bounces at postgis.refractions.net 
>>> [mailto:postgis-users-bounces at postgis.refractions.net] On Behalf Of 
>>> Andreas Laggner
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 9:13 AM
>>> To: PostGIS Users Discussion
>>> Subject: Re: [postgis-users] Union of 7 datasets
>>>
>>> Obe, Regina schrieb:
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>  Sounds like you would have to go with a full join type thing with 
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> workaround I described below (last example).  So If I understand you 
>>> correctly then something like this - 
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> --the first select gives you those records in both tables your 25 udokai
>>>>  SELECT udo.field1, udo.field2, kai.field3, kai.field4, 
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> geomunion(udo.the_geom, kai.the_geom) AS newgeom
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>  FROM udo INNER JOIN kai ON (udo.the_geom && kai.the_geom AND 
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> intersects(udo.the_geom, kai.the_geom))
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>  UNION
>>>> -- the second select gives you udos that have no kais - your 15
>>>>  SELECT udo.field1, udo.field2, NULL As field3, NULL As field4, 
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> udo.the_geom AS newgeom
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>  FROM udo LEFT JOIN kai ON (udo.the_geom && kai.the_geom AND 
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> intersects(udo.the_geom, kai.the_geom))
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>  WHERE kai.the_geom IS NULL
>>>>  UNION
>>>> -- and the 3rd gives you kais that have no udos. - your 40
>>>>  SELECT nul As field1, null As field2, kai.field3, kai.field4, 
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> kai.the_geom AS newgeom
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>  FROM kai LEFT JOIN udo ON (udo.the_geom && kai.the_geom AND 
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> intersects(udo.the_geom, kai.the_geom))
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>  WHERE udo.the_geom IS NULL
>>>>
>>>> Unioned together you should get
>>>> 25 + 15 + 40 = ? 80
>>>>
>>>> Hope that helps,
>>>> Regina
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> UFF - that seems to be a complex question, a comprehensive operation and
>>> a lot to type too!!! Thanks a million - i would have spent many time to
>>> find out this query by myself! Ok..... how can i perform your "UNION": I
>>> would just insert my selects one after another in one new table - will
>>> that work well?
>>> I want to aggregate around 20 datasets this way!? Do you know a method
>>> to operate with more datasets (for example 7) in a effektiv manner and
>>> not to do this three selects 6 times?
>>> AND: Am i totally wrong with my aims? It seems to me that is an exotic
>>> think to do with PostGis, but our projects/problems require to aggregate
>>> datasets in almost all cases (around 90%) and that is exactly what one
>>> of the basic functions "Union" in ArcView already carried out ten years
>>> ago. So i would exspect there is a function to perform this operation
>>> easier!? .....i just wonder.....
>>>
>>>
>>> cheers      Andreas
>>>
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: postgis-users-bounces at postgis.refractions.net 
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> [mailto:postgis-users-bounces at postgis.refractions.net] On Behalf Of 
>>> Andreas Laggner
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 7:28 AM
>>>> To: PostGIS Users Discussion
>>>> Subject: Re: [postgis-users] Union of 7 datasets
>>>>
>>>> Obe, Regina schrieb:
>>>>  
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>> BASIC TRICK:  If you want to get all records with no matching 
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>> including those that match - put what you would normally put in your 
>>> WHERE clause in the JOIN clause and use a LEFT JOIN.
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>    
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>>> ok - it seems to me i need some coaching......Yes, I want to get all
>>>> records with no matching including those that match, but i also want to
>>>> dissect the polygons that matches. I will try to explain again just to
>>>> be sure you understood my aims: I have 20 polygons in udo and 50 in kai.
>>>> 10 from kai are intersecting 5 from udo to 25 new polygons i call udokai
>>>> (because they have attributes from udo AND kai). My result should have:
>>>> 15 polygons with attributes only from udo, 40 polygons with attributes
>>>> only from kai AND 25 with attributes from udo and kai! In most cases i
>>>> want to do such a operation because i want to aggregate (spatial
>>>> correct) different datasets!
>>>> Which example from you fits best for this aim? I did not find any
>>>> information on how left join works on the postgis or postgresql 
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> reference...
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>  
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>> Unfortunately as I have come across before if you need an either or 
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>> (if in table 1 or table 2 - ideally you would use a FULL JOIN but for 
>>> some reason Postgres chokes when you use postgis functions in the FULL 
>>> JOIN clause for the cases I have tried).  In that case you need a 
>>> workaround using a set of UNIONS.
>>>     
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>> Simplest case - get all records in g1 one or union of g1 and g2 
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>> that intersect
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>> NOTE: COALESCE is an ANSI SQL function that will return the first 
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>> non-null - when you do a geomunion of a geometry and null you get null 
>>> which is why we need COALESCE
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>> SELECT g1.field1, g1.field2, COALESCE(geomunion(g1.the_geom, 
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>> g2.the_geom), g1.the_geom) AS newgeom
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>> FROM g1 LEFT JOIN g2 ON (g1.the_geom && g2.the_geom AND 
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>> intersects(g1.the_geom, g2.the_geom))
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>> Either of case - get all geometries in g1 or g2 or union if there 
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>> is a match - workaround for full joins not working right
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>> SELECT g1.field1, g1.field2, geomunion(g1.the_geom, g2.the_geom) AS 
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>> newgeom
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>> FROM g1 INNER JOIN g2 ON (g1.the_geom && g2.the_geom AND 
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>> intersects(g1.the_geom, g2.the_geom))
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>> UNION
>>>>> SELECT g1.field1, g1.field2, g1.the_geom AS newgeom
>>>>> FROM g1 LEFT JOIN g2 ON (g1.the_geom && g2.the_geom AND 
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>> intersects(g1.the_geom, g2.the_geom))
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>> WHERE g2.the_geom IS NULL
>>>>> UNION
>>>>> SELECT g1.field1, g1.field2, g2.the_geom AS newgeom
>>>>> FROM g2 LEFT JOIN g1 ON (g1.the_geom && g2.the_geom AND 
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>> intersects(g1.the_geom, g2.the_geom))
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>> WHERE g1.the_geom IS NULL
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope that helps,
>>>>> Regina
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: postgis-users-bounces at postgis.refractions.net 
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>> [mailto:postgis-users-bounces at postgis.refractions.net] On Behalf Of 
>>> Andreas Laggner
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 11:32 AM
>>>>> To: PostGIS Users Discussion
>>>>> Subject: Re: [postgis-users] Union of 7 datasets
>>>>>
>>>>> Obe, Regina schrieb:
>>>>>  
>>>>>    
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Oh the g1 g2 .. was just for example - I don't actually call my 
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>> tables meaningless names like that. 
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>> You should be doing a join on something or have a where clause 
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>> unless one of your tables has only one record.  Otherwise you are 
>>> doing what is called a CROSS JOIN (cartesian product)  which gives you 
>>> an nxm records where n is the number of records in your first table 
>>> and m is the number in second table.  This is generally a big NO NO.  
>>> In certain rare cases you do want to do something like that, but is 
>>> usually the exception.
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>    
>>>>>>      
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>>>> I think the records in my targed table must be added (more or less) and
>>>>> not multiplied! My Aim is a table that contains the areas of all the 7
>>>>> sourcetables and the information which refuges are inside and wich not.
>>>>> Perhaps i must use the intersection!? If i do my query with a gist like
>>>>> this: where t1.the_geom && t2.the_geom; than the operation is very fast
>>>>> (about one minute) but i only have the Polygons covered by BOTH
>>>>> datasets, and i want to have as well those, which are covered by one
>>>>> dataset only!! But my operation without the where clause runs for 4
>>>>> hours now - that shows me there is something wrong  ;-)
>>>>>  
>>>>>    
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Its hard for me to tell if you need a cartesian product in this 
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>> case since I'm not quite sure what for example nature and biosphere 
>>> represent.  I would guess that is wrong and you should first figure 
>>> out which sets of say nature records you need to geomunion with 
>>> biosphere and then join by that field or set of fields.
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>> It would help a bit if you could provide some sample questions you 
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>> expect to answer with your statistical analysis.  My guess is you may 
>>> be better off with more than one table.
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>    
>>>>>>      
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>>>> Sample question: give me all areas (all polygons) from germany where
>>>>> landuse=arable land and soils=good and precipitation>600 and any (of 7)
>>>>> reserves and so on.......
>>>>> I need the values in my table to calculate the potential yield or other
>>>>> things...
>>>>> And i want to analyse such questions with a statistical software (SAS),
>>>>> so it seems to me i need one table to import in SAS (or to query from
>>>>> SAS directly to the postgresql).
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your help, i will be back in my office in 
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>> Monday.......Andreas
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>  
>>>>>    
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Which structure is best really boils down to what questions you 
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>> hope to answer because one approach may make one question easy and 
>>> fast and another question slow and cumbersome.
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>> Hope that helps,
>>>>>> Regina
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: postgis-users-bounces at postgis.refractions.net 
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>> [mailto:postgis-users-bounces at postgis.refractions.net] On Behalf Of 
>>> Andreas Laggner
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 10:04 AM
>>>>>> To: PostGIS Users Discussion
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [postgis-users] Union of 7 datasets
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Obe, Regina schrieb:
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>    
>>>>>>      
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> Andreas,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It would help to know what your table structure looks like and 
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>> why do you want to put them all in a single geometry?
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> My table structures are a little bit different. I want to have 
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>> them in a
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>> single geometry to intersect them with other data and built a large
>>>>>> table to run statistics over it (production site analysis over 
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>> germany).
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>    
>>>>>>      
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> I'm imaging you are you doing something like
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> SELECT g1.somefield, geomunion(geomunion(g1.the_geom, 
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>> g2.the_geom), g3.the_geom)
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>> FROM g1 INNER JOIN g2 on g1.somefield = g2.somefield INNER JOIN 
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>> g3 on g2.somefield = g3.somefield
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>> GROUP BY g1.somefield
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> That´s an interesting method with inner join..why go you call your
>>>>>> tables g1. g2. and so on?
>>>>>> That´s my method i am using right now (geomunion 1 to 3 from 6), seems
>>>>>> to be a pedestrian method :-(
>>>>>>
>>>>>> create table natura2000
>>>>>>     (ffh_name character varying(80), ffh_land character 
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>> varying(3), ffh
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>> smallint, ffh_id smallint,
>>>>>>      spa_name character varying(80), spa_land character 
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>> varying(3), spa
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>> smallint, spa_id smallint) with oids;
>>>>>> select
>>>>>>
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>> addgeometrycolumn('','natura2000','the_geom','31467','MULTIPOLYGON',2);
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>> alter table natura2000 drop constraint enforce_geotype_the_geom;
>>>>>> insert into natura2000
>>>>>>     select
>>>>>>
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>> t1.ffh_name,t1.ffh_land,t1.ffh,t1.ffh_id,t2.spa_name,t2.spa_land,t2.spa,t2.spa_id,
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>             geomunion(t1.the_geom, t2.the_geom)
>>>>>>             from ffh_rep t1, spa_rep t2;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> create table sg71
>>>>>>     (ffh_name character varying(80), ffh_land character 
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>> varying(3), ffh
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>> smallint, ffh_id smallint,
>>>>>>      spa_name character varying(80), spa_land character 
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>> varying(3), spa
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>> smallint, spa_id smallint,
>>>>>>      bio_name character varying(70), bio smallint, bio_id 
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>> smallint) with
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>> oids;
>>>>>> select 
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>> addgeometrycolumn('','sg71','the_geom','31467','MULTIPOLYGON',2);
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>> alter table sg71 drop constraint enforce_geotype_the_geom;
>>>>>> insert into sg71
>>>>>>     select t1.ffh_name, t1.ffh_land, t1.ffh, t1.ffh_id, t1.spa_name,
>>>>>> t1.spa_land, t1.spa, t1.spa_id,
>>>>>>             t2.name,t2.bio,t2.bio_id,geomunion(t1.the_geom, 
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>> t2.the_geom)
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>             from natura2000 t1, biosphere t2;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> create table sg72
>>>>>>        (ffh_name character varying(80), ffh_land character varying(3),
>>>>>> ffh smallint, ffh_id smallint,
>>>>>>     spa_name character varying(80), spa_land character varying(3), spa
>>>>>> smallint, spa_id smallint,
>>>>>>     bio_name character varying(70), bio smallint, bio_id smallint,
>>>>>>     np_name character varying(60), np smallint, np_id smallint) 
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>> with oids;
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>> select 
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>> addgeometrycolumn('','sg72','the_geom','31467','MULTIPOLYGON',2);
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>> alter table sg72 drop constraint enforce_geotype_the_geom;
>>>>>> insert into sg72
>>>>>>     select t1.ffh_name, t1.ffh_land, t1.ffh, t1.ffh_id, t1.spa_name,
>>>>>> t1.spa_land, t1.spa, t1.spa_id,
>>>>>>             t1.bio_name,t1.bio,t1.bio_id,t2.np_name,t2.np,t2.np_id,
>>>>>>             geomunion(t1.the_geom, t2.the_geom)
>>>>>>             from sg71 t1, np t2;
>>>>>> AND SO ON......
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>    
>>>>>>      
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> SELECT g1.somefield, geomunion(gt.the_geom)
>>>>>>> FROM (SELECT somefield, the_geom FROM g1 UNION SELECT somefield, 
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>> the_geom FROM g2 ...) gt
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>> GROUP BY gt.somefield
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If I have 7 different tables that have pretty much the same 
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>> structure, but for logistical or other technical reasons (such as each 
>>> has additional attributes distinct from one another), I need to keep 
>>> them as separate tables, then I usually use inherited tables for that. 
>>> That way when I need to join all datasets at once, I can simply query 
>>> the parent table and it will automatically drill down to the child 
>>> tables. Not sure if that helps more than it confuses your situation.
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>> Then instead of the above I can simply do
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> SELEG myparenttable.somefield, geomunion(myparenttable.the_geom)
>>>>>>> FROM myparenttable
>>>>>>> GROUP by gh.somefield
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> ok - i have to think about your suggestions......that´s my second week
>>>>>> with postgis.
>>>>>> Can you tell me from my SQL-Statements which method will be best? So i
>>>>>> try to understand that one.....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for your reply!!!
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>    
>>>>>>      
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> Hope that helps,
>>>>>>> Regina
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: postgis-users-bounces at postgis.refractions.net 
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>> [mailto:postgis-users-bounces at postgis.refractions.net] On Behalf Of 
>>> Andreas Laggner
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 9:11 AM
>>>>>>> To: PostGis_Mailinglist
>>>>>>> Subject: [postgis-users] Union of 7 datasets
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi users,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> i want to put together 7 datasets to have all the different 
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>> refuges in
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>> one table (and in one geometry). Am i doing right with 6 times 
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>> geomunion
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>> (that´s much to type with all the attributes) or is there a more
>>>>>>> effective way?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> cheers Andreas
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>    
>>>>>>      
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>>>>  
>>>>>    
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>>>  
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> --
>>> Dipl. Geoökologe Andreas Laggner
>>> Institut für Ländliche Räume (LR)
>>> Bundesforschungsanstalt für Landwirtschaft (FAL)
>>>
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Institut für Ländliche Räume (LR)
Bundesforschungsanstalt für Landwirtschaft (FAL)

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