[postgis-users] Difficult Problem with Polygons

Ed Linde edolinde at gmail.com
Mon Oct 29 08:09:23 PDT 2012


Thanks Nicolas! Will look at the script that generated the polygon text..
must have goofed something up there.

On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Nicolas Ribot <nicolas.ribot at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> No. this is because some of your polygons are not valid:
> for instance:
> select st_isvalid('POLYGON  ((593921 5219610 803,593921 5219610
> 818,593921 5219620 818,593921 5219620 803,593921 5219610
> 803))'::geometry);
> NOTICE:  Too few points in geometry component at or near point 593921
> 5219610 803
>  st_isvalid
> ------------
>  f
> (1 row)
>
> you can control this with st_isvalid, st_isvalidReason and correct
> them with st_makeValid.
>
> Use only valid objects before processing them with Postgis functions.
>
> Nicolas
>
> On 29 October 2012 16:03, Ed Linde <edolinde at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Thanks Nicolas. Just about the error, is this because the line segments
> are
> > too close
> > and postgis 2.0 could not handle this? If so is there a workaround, even
> if
> > it means
> > slightly having to "perturb" each point's position to not run into this
> bug.
> > I was really hoping that the intersection of two polygonal shapes in 3D
> > would be fairly
> > simple in postgis 2.0 :(
> >
> > Ed
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Nicolas Ribot <nicolas.ribot at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> If the points are computed in the right order, you can store them and
> >> pass them to st_makeLine and st_makePolygon.
> >> If not, you can form a segment between 2 closest points and connect it
> >> to the closest points.
> >>
> >> On 29 October 2012 15:37, Ed Linde <edolinde at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Hi All,
> >> > Thanks for the tips! Just another thing, when I compute the
> "transition
> >> > points" on each edge (shown as red points in my pdf).
> >> > I need to join them to make a polygon. Wondering how I can connect
> them
> >> > together so that I start with a point and end on it
> >> > to form a closed polygon?
> >> >
> >> > Cheers,
> >> > Ed
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Stephen Woodbridge
> >> > <woodbri at swoodbridge.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi Ed,
> >> >>
> >> >> Well if clarifies one thing at least, you can ignore Mike's st_Relate
> >> >> because 5 is not adjacent to a linear edge, it is only adjacent to a
> >> >> vertex,
> >> >> so st_touches should work fine.
> >> >>
> >> >> so you are looking for:
> >> >>
> >> >> 1. a specific triangle by id
> >> >> 2. that intersects triangle VC
> >> >> 3. and the triangles adjacent to triangle by id
> >> >> 4. and those that are contained in VC
> >> >> 5. sorted by distance to P1 limit 1
> >> >>
> >> >> so something like:
> >> >>
> >> >> select id, the_geom
> >> >>   from (select id, the_geom as adjacent
> >> >>           from triangles
> >> >>          where st_touches(the_geom,
> >> >>                           (select the_geom
> >> >>                              from triangles a,
> >> >>                                   (select the_geom as vc
> >> >>                                      from vc_table
> >> >>                                     where id='p1') b
> >> >>                             where a.id=4)) c
> >> >>  order by st_distance(c.the_geom, (select the_geom
> >> >>                                      from points
> >> >>                                     where id='p1')) asc limit 1;
> >> >>
> >> >> Untested, but should give you a model to work with.
> >> >>
> >> >> -Steve W
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On 10/29/2012 6:57 AM, Ed Linde wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Attached is a figure. Where the dotted line is the boundary of the
> >> >>> voronoi cell whose
> >> >>> generator is point P1. So triangle "4" intersects with the voronoi
> >> >>> boundary, but we are
> >> >>> interested in the adjacent triangles of triangle 4, which are closer
> >> >>> to
> >> >>> point P1.
> >> >>> For example, triangle 5.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Hope this helps.
> >> >>> Cheers,
> >> >>> Ed
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Nicolas Ribot
> >> >>> <nicolas.ribot at gmail.com
> >> >>> <mailto:nicolas.ribot at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>     Could you draw a figure ?
> >> >>>
> >> >>>     Nicolas
> >> >>>
> >> >>>     On 29 October 2012 11:03, Ed Linde <edolinde at gmail.com
> >> >>>     <mailto:edolinde at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >> >>>      > Hi All,
> >> >>>      > Thanks for the suggestions.
> >> >>>      > For 1) I will look into how ST_touches works and see if it
> can
> >> >>>     pick up all
> >> >>>      > the adjacent polygons to
> >> >>>      > the one I have. And also look into Mike's suggestion on
> >> >>>     ST_relate...though I
> >> >>>      > must admit it looks
> >> >>>      > more complex.
> >> >>>      > For 2) I will try to clarify it a bit more... its harder to
> do
> >> >>>     without a
> >> >>>      > figure :) but here goes.
> >> >>>      >
> >> >>>      > Lets say we have a point Q which is the generator of a
> voronoi
> >> >>>     cell. Now I
> >> >>>      > compute the
> >> >>>      > intersection between the voronoi cell boundaries and my
> >> >>>     triangulation (Set
> >> >>>      > of polygons)
> >> >>>      > using ST_intersect. Once I have these triangles.. I say pick
> >> >>> one
> >> >>>     triangle T
> >> >>>      > that is
> >> >>>      > intersecting the voronoi cell boundary of Q.
> >> >>>      > For all the triangles adjacent to T, I need to know which
> >> >>>     triangles are
> >> >>>      > INSIDE the voronoi
> >> >>>      > boundary (closer to Q) and which adjacent triangles are just
> >> >>>     OUTSIDE the
> >> >>>      > voronoi
> >> >>>      > boundary (farther from Q). I am basically testing for a
> certain
> >> >>>     property by
> >> >>>      > "shrinking" the
> >> >>>      > voronoi cell (closer to Q) and another property when
> >> >>> "expanding"
> >> >>>     the voronoi
> >> >>>      > cell (away from Q).
> >> >>>      > Just need to make this division of triangles. Haven't thought
> >> >>> of
> >> >>>     a nice way
> >> >>>      > to do this in postgis 2.0
> >> >>>      > So any suggestions would greatly help.
> >> >>>      >
> >> >>>      > Thanks,
> >> >>>      > Ed
> >> >>>      >
> >> >>>      > On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Mike Toews <
> mwtoews at gmail.com
> >> >>>     <mailto:mwtoews at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >> >>>      >>
> >> >>>      >> On 29 October 2012 21:33, Ed Linde <edolinde at gmail.com
> >> >>>     <mailto:edolinde at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >> >>>      >> > Hi All,
> >> >>>      >> > I need help with 2 hard problems. I store triangles in a
> >> >>> table
> >> >>> as
> >> >>>      >> > POLYGON.
> >> >>>      >> >
> >> >>>      >> > 1. I want to know for a given triangle, which triangles
> >> >>> share
> >> >>>     an edge
> >> >>>      >> > (adjacent) with this triangle.
> >> >>>      >>
> >> >>>      >> Sounds like you have a finite element mesh with nodes and
> >> >>> elements.
> >> >>>      >> You can use ST_Relate with pattern 'FF2F11212' to pick out
> >> >>> elements
> >> >>>      >> that share the same edge. This DE-9-IM is sort-of a custom
> >> >>>     ST_Touches,
> >> >>>      >> but only takes linear boundary overlaps. So if you have a
> >> >>> table
> >> >>>      >> "elements", and you want to find ones that touch ID 567:
> >> >>>      >>
> >> >>>      >> SELECT elements.*
> >> >>>      >> FROM elements, elements as e
> >> >>>      >> WHERE e.id <http://e.id> = 567 AND
> >> >>>
> >> >>>      >>     ST_Relate(elements.geom, e.geom, 'FF2F11212');
> >> >>>      >>
> >> >>>      >> I'm not certain about your second question.
> >> >>>      >>
> >> >>>      >> -Mike
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