[postgis-users] Overlap analysis / polygonize precision problem

Alexandre Neto senhor.neto at gmail.com
Fri Mar 27 09:26:27 PDT 2020


Hi,

Interesting... Converting the geometries to EPSG:3758 gives me full
precision results... even too much precision in fact.

Am I hitting a possible bug?

create materialized view boundaries6 as
(
SELECT ST_Union(st_transform(geom,3857)) AS geom
FROM isolated_polygons
);

create materialized view poligonos as
(
SELECT (st_dump(st_polygonize(geom))).geom as geom
FROM boundaries6
);

Output example:

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-1876187.3607232203 3848444.9105072804, -1876188.5041804744
3848441.382478181))

On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 4:08 PM Alexandre Neto <senhor.neto at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I finally got to test this situation a bit more. The culprit seems to be
> the Union process:
>
> with this to get all rings from the polygons, and which return their
> linestrings in full precision:
>
> create materialized view isolated_polygons as (
> select st_exteriorring((st_dumprings((st_dump(geom)).geom)).geom) as geom
> from OUTPUTS_FINAIS.estabelecimentos_as_400
> )
>
> All these produced a reduced precision output:
>
> create materialized view boundaries as
> (
> SELECT ST_Union(geom) AS geom
> FROM isolated_polygons
> );
>
> create materialized view boundaries2 as
> (
> SELECT ST_UnaryUnion(st_collect(geom)) AS geom
> FROM isolated_polygons
> );
>
> create materialized view boundaries3 as
> (
> SELECT ST_MemUnion(geom) AS geom
> FROM isolated_polygons
> );
>
> BTW, my data is in EPSG:4326
>
> I am now trying to convert data to another EPSG, to see what happens.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Alexandre Neto
>
> On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 4:19 PM Alexandre Neto <senhor.neto at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I will, thank you!
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 4:10 PM Martin Davis <mtnclimb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> It seems odd that precision is being reduced that much.  In order to
>>> isolate where it is happening, you should capture output from each stage of
>>> the CTE (which is easy to do, by just truncating the CTE after each query
>>> and doing a "SELECT * FROM cte_tbl" .  Then post the results here if you
>>> need help analyzing them, and so we can investigate further.
>>>
>>> Even better would be to provide the dataset which is causing the
>>> problem, to aid in sorting this out.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 7:16 PM Alexandre Neto <senhor.neto at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I am running a Overlay analysis, and I am following what is proposed by
>>>> Paul Ramsey in this article:
>>>>
>>>> http://blog.cleverelephant.ca/2019/07/postgis-overlays.html
>>>>
>>>> I am using this query on PostgreSQL 10 and PostGIS
>>>>
>>>> With isolated_polygons as
>>>> (
>>>> select st_exteriorring((st_dumprings((st_dump(geom)).geom)).geom) as
>>>> geom
>>>> from OUTPUTS_FINAIS.estabelecimentos_as_400
>>>> )
>>>> , boundaries as (
>>>> SELECT st_union(geom) AS geom
>>>> FROM isolated_polygons
>>>> )
>>>> , poligonos as (
>>>> SELECT (st_dump(st_polygonize(geom))).geom as geom
>>>> FROM boundaries
>>>> )
>>>> , n_poligonos as (
>>>> SELECT row_number() over() as id, geom
>>>> FROM poligonos
>>>> )
>>>> SELECT p.id, count(id) as n_sobreposicoes,
>>>> p.geom::geometry(polygon,4326)
>>>> into temp.sobreposicoes_400m
>>>> FROM n_poligonos as p
>>>> join outputs_finais.estabelecimentos_as_400 as t
>>>> on st_contains(t.geom,st_pointonsurface(p.geom))
>>>> GROUP BY id, p.geom;
>>>>
>>>> When I use this with a sample set of input multipolygons, The results
>>>> are what we would expect, all the overlapping polygons split and the count
>>>> of the number of overlapping polygons.
>>>>
>>>> When I run it with the full set (around 4800 polygons)
>>>>
>>>> The precison of the output polygons gets truncated and instead of
>>>> detailed polygons I get a "pixelied" output:
>>>>
>>>> POLYGON ((-8.99 39.42, -8.99 39.43, -8.98 39.43, -8.97 39.43, -8.97
>>>> 39.42, -8.98 39.42, -8.99 39.42))
>>>> POLYGON ((-8.19 39.56, -8.2 39.56, -8.2 39.57, -8.19 39.57, -8.18
>>>> 39.57, -8.19 39.56))
>>>> POLYGON ((-8.54 41.02, -8.55 41.02, -8.55 41.03, -8.54 41.03, -8.54
>>>> 41.02))
>>>> POLYGON ((-8.39 40.17, -8.4 40.17, -8.4 40.18, -8.39 40.18, -8.39
>>>> 40.17))
>>>> POLYGON ((-8.57 38.83, -8.58 38.83, -8.59 38.84, -8.58 38.84, -8.57
>>>> 38.84, -8.57 38.83))
>>>>
>>>> My gut feeling is that this is happening at the polygonize level, but I
>>>> am not sure.
>>>>
>>>> I have also tried to use st_node + st_collect getting the same kind of
>>>> results
>>>>
>>>> Any idea of what can this be?
>>>>
>>>> Since not all polygons are overlapping each other, I wanted to try to
>>>> separate the analysis by chunks, but I fail to see how can I union or
>>>> collect only not disjoint line groups.
>>>>
>>>> I am using
>>>>
>>>> PostgreSQL 10.12 (Ubuntu 10.12-0ubuntu0.18.04.1) on
>>>> x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, compiled by gcc (Ubuntu 7.4.0-1ubuntu1~18.04.1) 7.4.0,
>>>> 64-bit
>>>>
>>>> POSTGIS="2.5.3 r17699" [EXTENSION] PGSQL="100" GEOS="3.7.1-CAPI-1.11.1
>>>> 27a5e771" PROJ="Rel. 4.9.3, 15 August 2016" GDAL="GDAL 2.2.3, released
>>>> 2017/11/20" LIBXML="2.9.4" LIBJSON="0.12.1" LIBPROTOBUF="1.2.1" RASTER
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Alexandre Neto
>>>>
>>>>
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