[PROJ] How is PROJ pronounced?

[Thomas Knudsen]

To my Danish ears, and following relaxed Danish orthography, PROJ is just
the short form of PRÅDTSCHJJJ, when speaking English, and PRÅÅÅY when
speaking Danish (give it a try :-) ) , so I can hardly claim to be
consistent in the pronunciation...  and neither would I encourage anyone
else to be: Pronounce it whichever way you feel (even PROOOOOOOOOY, PRUY,
or PREJ), but spell it as PROJ :-)

Den man. 27. mar. 2023 kl. 16.32 skrev Javier Jimenez Shaw <
j1 at jimenezshaw.com>:

> Thanks!
>
> I was not expecting the discussion about the pronunciation of the vowel
> "o", may fault XD. This can be a never ending topic among native English
> speakers (to many similar sounds for me).
> My question was more oriented to the final "j". So far we agree on that.
> The rhyme with "dodge" is useful.
>
> Cheers,
> Javier.
>
> On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 at 14:18, Paul Harwood <runette at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Since you have started ...
>>
>>
>> I am London English and I say it (like you based on that fact it is short
>> for projection) with the same vowel as US "process" and not the vowel from
>> UK "process" ... No one ever said that the English were consistent ... :).
>>
>> But to be honest, the o sounds in English English ( as opposed to
>> Scottish or Welsh or RP) are highly class dependant.
>>
>> No one is ever going to agree about the bowl sounds. The consistent part
>> is that it ends with a hard(-ish) "j"
>>
>> On Mon, 27 Mar 2023, 13:05 Greg Troxel, <gdt at lexort.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Javier Jimenez Shaw <j1 at jimenezshaw.com> writes:
>>>
>>> > Recently somebody asked me why do I pronounce PROJ that way.
>>> > What I try to say is /ˈprɒdʒ/  ( hear it somehow
>>> > http://ipa-reader.xyz/?text=%CB%88pr%C9%92d%CA%92 )
>>> > Is there any "official" way or consensus about it?
>>>
>>> My opinions have formed in a vacuum separated from actually talking to
>>> others, but:
>>>
>>>   I see PROJ as sort for "projection".
>>>
>>>   I pronounce it as rhyming with "dodge".  This has a different vowel
>>>   and different voicing of the j sound than when I say the word
>>>   projection.
>>>
>>>   I view my pronunciation as the way I expect other native en_US
>>>   speakers to read it (knowing/guessing "proj is short for projection")
>>>   without any prior experience.  en_CA and maybe en_GB I would maybe
>>>   expect a long O, but I am pretty sure Gerald Evenden was from the US.
>>>
>>> Relative to the ipa-reader.xyz "sally - american", I say it faster, with
>>> the vowel being maybe 2/3 the length and the j even less.  But it's
>>> quite close, and I'm from ~Boston so I talk wicked fast compared to
>>> people from e.g. Georgia.
>>>
>>> You can hear a shift to a slightly longer O in "brian - british".  A
>>> Canadian might have a much larger shift to fully long O, the way they
>>> would says "process", but I think the short word somewhat avoids that.
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