[Projects] Do we still need a OSGeo software forge? (was Re: Trac/SVN/Gitea upgrade completed, tests welcome)
Even Rouault
even.rouault at spatialys.com
Sun Sep 22 15:07:07 PDT 2024
Hi,
Isn't maintaining a OSGeo Trac/svn/gitea/whatever infrastructure a lost
battle, waste of energy and volunteer time, strategically dubious /
sending a inaudible message nowadays? And when I say nowadays, I really
mean since 10 years at least...
There's no way cool kids will want to contribute to projects using that.
Plus the fact you need to go over the mantra barrier to create your
account. It looks really like if we actively wanted to discourage
contributions, do we?
Which (still active) OSGeo projects are still using that as their
canonical infa: geos (gitea for git repo & tickets ?), PostGIS (Trac for
tickets?), ... ? Maybe consider a migration plan to be able to
completely shut down services at some later point?
At least if OSGeo really wanted to host a software forge, it could host
a gitlab instance, so the 5% of people who don't use github have at
least some familiarity with it, but I would even question that (with
Trac/SVN/gitea, we are targeting the 0.1% outliers). Everybody have sold
their soul to github and are happily providing food to LLMs. Let's just
accept it, bend to the powers governing the world, and move on.
Even
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PS1: interestingly, gitea canonical repository is ... hosted on github
(https://github.com/go-gitea/gitea). That tells a lot, doesn't it?
PS2: Little tour of other organizations:
- Eclipse Foundation: both github and gitlab
(https://gitlab.eclipse.org/explore):
https://blogs.eclipse.org/post/denis-roy/moving-eclipse-projects-github-and-gitlab
(this post actually makes the same point as me about what the new gen
expects)
- Apache Foundation: github apparently, at least Apache Arrow uses it
both for tickets & code
- Freedesktop.org: gitlab
- Gnome: gitlab
- KDE; gitlab
Sure you may find counter-examples to that trend, but it is definitely
there.
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