[Qgis-community-team] http://qgis.osgeo.org/ is online for testing

Tue Jun 24 03:16:31 EDT 2008

Hi, 

Stephan, if you have some time, please have a look at the Tim's suggestions,
write those you agree with to the wiki and delegate the tasks on the community
list. I would volunteer to assist and below my opinions...

On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 22:25:36 +0200
"Tim Sutton" <tim at linfiniti.com> wrote:

> Hi
> 
> Ok I'm back at home and had a look at the mock up. I have many many
> comments, here is what I can manage before I fall asleep at the
> keyboard :-) I appreciate that others may have different opinions,
> these are just mine...
> 
> - When you navigate away from the front page there is nothing to tell
> you what site you are on. Every page should have at minimum the qgis
> icon and the words 'Quantum GIS' at the top of the page. I think this
> may be best placed above the osgeo logo in the left cl, but Im not
> sure without seeing it in reality. Then the osgeo logo could go under
> it.

yes, important

> - The features list should be split into two, left aligned columns so
> that the features appear 'above the fold'

seems to be done

> - Articles on front page (and probably elsewhere) should not have date
> / time / pdf etc icons. For me it adds a lot of visual clutter and ads
> no real benifit and in worst case makes it look like QGIS was born
> this week only :-P

yes, we should only show title and the text, no pdf/print/time/author/.... I
also think it deflects and makes the website unstructured

> - I like the right aligned top menu bar and now I think the
> accessibility icons are a) wasting space b) looking a bit strange
> because the blue bar is wider then the menu bar below it and isnt
> rounded like the bar below. I suggest to remove that current
> accessibility bar and put the icons left aligned on the top menu bar
> since we have the free space there.

yes, but I would prefere to put the menu bar inside the blue bar,
because this kind of header would nicely introduce the two colors used in the
website.

> - The QGIS screenie with the reflection in the intro to qgis paragraph
> needs to be a) padded a little from the surrounding text b) aligned so
> that the top of the image aligns to the top of the first row of the
> intro paragraph

yes

> - OSGeo logo should be center aligned in its column

I am not happy with the place for the OSGeo logo but don't have a better idea,
yet. Maybe below the QGIS screenie. And the QGIS logo on the other side of the
intro to qgis paragraph could go into the paragraph defined as {mosimage}.

> - It would be good to get rid of the main menu module on left all
> together - I think the site still has too many things going on.
> - When the main menu module is gone, can you put a custom module that
> says something like 'Current Version Foo Bar, released 16 of June
> 2008. Download."
> - Put the screenshots link in the top menu.
> - When we settle on a plugin repository put the menu item as 'Plugins'
> in the top menu.

I would keep the main menu, because (maybe I am wrong) Stephan's idea seems to
be that the top bar leads to the external blog, wiki, download, forum ... and
the main menue to internal topics. Was this intended? If so, I like that idea.

> - We need to get SEO urls working so that this isnt in address bar:
>
http://qgis.osgeo.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=97&Itemid=120

yes, agree

> - I think its better to put 'the project' on the front page after the
> features list (see comments relating to that above) and remove the
> 'the project' page.

yes

> - the black top menu bar on the right side is missing its rounded
> corners like it has to the left side

yes, see comments above

> - can we get rid of the light gray frames around the outside of the content?

I would delete the outer frame but keep one.

> - the module box titles (e.g. "Polls") and their content is
> disproportionately large comared to the rest of the site.

yes, the size for box titles and text is not optimized yet

> - can you remove the word 'website' from the window title (i.e. the
> site name in configuration) since its redundant to say that this is a
> website.

yes, maybe better "Quantum GIS - Open Source Geographical Information System"

regards,
 Otto

> I have many more suggestions but let me leave these ones with you for
> general consideration and after the next round of updates Ill give
> another round of comments.
> 
> Keep up the great work!
>
> Regards
> 
> Tim
> 
> 2008/6/19 Tim Sutton <tim at linfiniti.com>:
> > Hi
> >
> > My suggestion is to import the users map data into postgis temporarily
> > and then put itinto an ogr readable sqlite datbase - or two, one for
> > placenames table (which wont need regular backups) and one for users
> > (which can be backed up daily via email).
> >
> > regards
> >
> > Tim
> >
> > On 6/19/08, Stephan Reber <stephan.reber at sr-gis.de> wrote:
> >> Hi Otto,
> >>
> >> Otto Dassau schrieb:
> >>> Hi Stephan,
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 08:48:39 +0200
> >>> Stephan Reber <stephan.reber at sr-gis.de> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Hallo!
> >>>>
> >>>> After reordering the content from the qgis.org, a first version of the
> >>>> website is online. I have rearranged the menus and modules. Now its a
> >>>> 2-column layout and I made some modifications of the template.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> with a 2-column layout and because we only want to present the essentials,
> >>> what
> >>> about using a fixed-width (~800 pixel) for the website and commenting the
> >>> fluid-width? Maybe it is only my personal preference, but I always find
> >>> pages
> >>> with a fixed-width easier to design, fill with content and look nice.
> >>>
> >> I prefer a fixed width, too. But to keep the look and feel of qgis
> >> (website, wiki, forum, blog), I did not change it. I tested a fixed
> >> width with buttons in the header on the right side. I think it looks
> >> good - except the polls module.
> >>>
> >>>> Also I added a archive, which allows to search the unused contents of
> >>>> qgis.org. But the search is not very comfortable.
> >>>> Adding a directory for plugins is good idea. But what about the possible
> >>>> security problems with third party components? Because I don't like the
> >>>> idea of putting ads on the website for using a component, I have
> >>>> searched another directory component with good reviews. I have added a
> >>>> good and often used component just for testing and to see how such a
> >>>> component works.
> >>>>
> >>>> In the next days I will return to work on the alternatives for the
> >>>> templates.
> >>>>
> >>>> Take a look  at http://qgis.osgeo.org/
> >>>> Name and password: qgisweb
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> I took a first look and agree with Werner that it looks already clearer,
> >>> but I
> >>> will wait for your other templates and until you say "this is my final
> >>> solution
> >>> I propose", before we start the discussion.
> >> I'm working on it.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> And also from my side. If you need help or have some tasks to
> >>> share/assign, just
> >>> tell us.
> >>>
> >> When I changed the joomlashack template there were two things I wanted
> >> to change but I haven't found where to adjust them.
> >>
> >> 1. I would like to display the topmenu on the right side or in the
> >> middle. I think, it is too near to the main menu.
> >> 2. The font size of the main menu should be greater.
> >>
> >> Maybe, someone can do it or let me know where to adjust the template.
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >> Now that the wiki works I will add/update the todo list and report the
> >> things already done. This could take untill next week, because I am
> >> offline at the weekend.
> >>
> >> And something I asked myself when I rearranged the content is what to do
> >> with the 1309 users of Joomla?
> >>
> >> Another point is the usermap backup. I tried to install them without a
> >> close look at the sql-script. But it did not work. Then I realized that
> >> it is data for postgresql. Is postgresql also installed on the server
> >> and if so can I get access to it?
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Stephan
> >>> thanks a lot for your work so far!
> >>>
> >>> regards,
> >>>  Otto
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> I'm looking forward to your feedback.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards
> >>>> Stephan
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