[Qgis-community-team] Draft paper discussing QGIS docs

Mon Aug 26 06:02:04 PDT 2019

Hi all,
just a quick reaction to that long standing issue,

Le lun. 26 août 2019 à 14:42, Andreas Neumann <a.neumann at carto.net> a
écrit :

> Hi again,
>
> Another observation I have is that there is an awful lot of documentation
> about QGIS out their on the web, spread into many personal blog websites,
> company blog posts and news sites, youtube movies, social media posts, etc.
> etc. However, all of this vast and de-centralized information doesn't end
> up in our central documentation.
>
Agreed!

> My assumption is that people prefer to add such information more to their
> own, personal website, rather than to QGIS.OR because it helps them to:
>
>    - build personal reputation (individual persons). I think about people
>    like Anita Graser, Klas Karlsson, and probably many others who always add
>    the new cool stuff to their own websites, but not to QGIS.ORG
>
> Agreed, myself included at a small scale

>
>    -
>    - show off what cool features the company added recently to QGIS core
>    (which helps their business) - examples are companies like OpenGIS,
>    Oslandia, etc. who add new cool stuff to their company website, but not to
>    QGIS.ORG
>
> Well, concerning Oslandia, we have been trying to systematically document
in the doc the newly created features, and blog posts are a complement. We
might have missed some, but that's the idea. In fact, not all customers
accept the very high costs of the full quality package "feature + review +
doc" . We've already been discussing this on the list some times and I
remember opinions are mixed here. Personaly, I would vote for making
minimal doc PR along with the feature PR the default behavior, with
possible exemptions.  (hum, make me think that we merged a PR this morning
without documenting it, let's do that )

>
>
>    - better  learn and understand how QGIS works (which is useful for
>    building up their skills). I heard from Harrissou that this was his main
>    motivation to contribute to the centralized QGIS documentation.
>
> From these above three different motivations, only the last one can be
> fulfilled by adding new information to our centralized documentation, the
> other two are better done outside of the centralized documentation.
>
> So I wonder if the huge work of documentors in the centralized
> documentation could be better credited/attributed to individuals, so that
> the other two motivations of gaining personal or company reputation by
> contributing to the centralized QGIS documentation is better fulfilled?
>
Not an easy task, but we at last have github statistics. Maybe blogging
each year about QGIS project status, and mentionning the special efforts
made by active contributors during the past year. Why not going towards
some kind of reward, just like OSGEO has the Sol-Katz ? Just random
thoughts too.

> Just some thoughts ...
>
> Andreas
> Am 26.08.19 um 15:10 schrieb Andreas Neumann:
>
> Hi Cameron,
>
> Thank you for summarizing your observations and assessment on the current
> state of documentation in QGIS.
>
> I agree that the documentation task seems to be overwhelming and might
> also be daunting for newcomers, volunteers and even paid people. I also
> agree that the team is under-resourced.
>
> However, we already knew this before your assessment.
>
> So I wonder if you could add your thoughts and recommendations on how to
> improve our situation? We already know about our misery and bad state, but
> it would be encouraging to hear more suggestions for how to improve the
> situation. This would be really valuable for us.
>
> It is not primarily a problem of finding financial resources. Every year
> we assigned funds for documentation and in most years those funds haven't
> been used. Even if we would make more funds available to the team, I feel
> this wouldn't solve the problems the team is facing.
>
> Should the team focus on smaller chunks/goals in order to have better
> progress and a better success feeling?
>
> Are the tools to complicated?
>
> Is there not enough information provided by developers or organizations
> who fund a new features?
>
> Thanks again for adding more suggestions and advice to your document -
> this would help us much more than just the assessment of the current state.
>
> Andreas
>
> Am 26.08.19 um 14:35 schrieb Cameron Shorter:
>
> For those involved in QGIS docs,
>
> After a bit of brainstorming with Matteo about what next for QGIS docs, I
> offered to put some ideas down into an article to give him something
> tangible to take to the QGIS Project Steering Committee next week.
>
> I feel my thoughts have room to be developed a bit and I'd be keen to hear
> feedback on them before I copy to my blog at the end of this week.
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/11N5d1aBgkdQ80I7RKBlt_jx9Uk1RGsvOTeq_TSFeljA/edit#
>
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