[Qgis-community-team] Fw: Att Werner Macho - suggested AU/EU language translation.

[Alexei Schwab]

Fully agree on this proposal for better typography in the legend generator. 

Dylan, have you added it as an issue on the QGIS github repo?

https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues

Regards, 

Alexei 

On Wed, 10 Apr 2024, at 00:33, Dylan Chenoweth via Qgis-community-team wrote:
> I should also add: before doing this I looked everywhere in the available customisation sections within QGIS Desktop and could not find anywhere this variable/default could be changed.
> Ideally, it would be great if users could simply have a field legend window where we could select or change the preferred default number separator - this way everyone can be happy and there'd be no need to dig through or hack code.
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> Kind regards,
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> Dylan Chenoweth
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> Surface Water Science and Engineering
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> *From:* Dylan Chenoweth <dylanchenoweth at outlook.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 10 April 2024 9:01 AM
> *To:* qgis-community-team at lists.osgeo.org <qgis-community-team at lists.osgeo.org>
> *Subject:* Att Werner Macho - suggested AU/EU language translation.
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> Hello Werner,
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> I understand there is currently no Australian language conversion for QGIS. I've suggested this translation be added to through the Transifex QGIS Desktop page.
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> However, it may not be necessary to have a full translation for AU since we mostly adopt UK English anyway. But the reason I came across the translation option was born from a very simple requirement which I'll point out below...
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> In the legend/symbol ranges for classified symbols, the default range seperator is a hyphen (-) which is incorrect for describing ranges. Additionally, negative numbers are also listed using a hyphen (-).
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> The hyphen is very similar to the minus (−) sign (but not identical - it sits lower than a minus or en-dash). Number ranges should be separated by an en-dash (–). This helps visually identify the difference between numbers being negatives or math equations, vs ranges. The below summarises the differences:
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> ‐    −    –    [hyphen, minus, en-dash]
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>                                        negative 100 to positive 100
> QGIS current default range:               ‐100 ‐ 100
> Range using just math symbol for minus:   −100 ‐ 100
> Range using math minus and en-dash:     −100 – 100
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> Range using just en-dash separator        -100 – 100
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> Below is an example of the three differences in QGIS:
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> QGIS current default range: 
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> Range using just math symbol for minus:
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> *_Range using math minus and en-dash:_*
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> I also acknowledge there is a need to keep legends visually easy to read, and adding the minus and en-dash results in longer-spanning number ranges than those that have positive values.
> For this reason, I believe it may still be beneficial to retain the hyphen for negative numbers to keep the spanning label short a little more in-line with the positive values. However, I strongly believe the range seperator default should be replaced with an en-dash, to clearly show the difference between it being a range and a math operator. This example is shown below in full with positive values below for reference
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> I am keen to hear you and the team's thoughts - looking forward to your reply, thankyou.
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> This is further discussed on the Australian Government's website: Dashes | Style Manual <https://www.stylemanual.gov.au/grammar-punctuation-and-conventions/punctuation/dashes> -and is published as the correct use of the en-dash vs hyphen/minus in many other online sources.
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> Use the correct symbols for en dash and minus sign
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> En dashes are half the width of the font height. Use them as a type of punctuation.
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> Don’t use an en dash instead of a minus sign. Screen readers will read dashes as dashes, not as the minus sign.
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> *_In Unicode, the en dash is U+2013._*
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> To make sure screen readers read the minus sign, use the mathematical symbol for minus. In Unicode, this is U+2212.
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> Don’t confuse the dash or the minus symbol for a _hyphen <https://www.stylemanual.gov.au/node/105>_.
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> Kind regards,
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> Dylan Chenoweth
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> Environmental Scientist (water)
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> BSc Env (Hons.) | Flinders University
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