R: [Qgis-developer] GRASS Toolbox list view patch

Sun Jun 1 12:51:10 EDT 2008

Hi Tim,

>My feeling is to try to clean up the list filter and maybe and expand  all 
>/ collaps all to the tree view, and ship 0.11.0 with both  available in the 
>toolbox

perfect

>In the future we can try the more  sophisticated 'remember tree state' that 
>you suggest.

good

>The main area that needs to be  addressed is GRASS support. I believe 
>Jürgen has it kinda working but  I have not as yet figured out how to get 
>the GRASS stuff built under  MSVC

yes, obviously; I don't know if Jurgen has built GRASS under MSVC yet. I 
could figure out how to build it, even if it would require a lot of time.

>my feeling is if you can do MSVC release for 0.11.0

actually I would prefer to still release it with MSYS, mainly because I'm 
very busy here (I must take the degree on September) and I'm not used to 
work with MSVC (I installed and used it for some days on the previous 
machine, but I didn't used it intensively)

> my  feeling is it performs better than the MSYS build (would be 
> interesting to verify this though)

actually I don't know it, I would be very interesting to verify it (even if 
I believe that there are no significant differences) :-)

All thet best,

Marco

PS: sorry for my poor presence on the project, but I'm under a storm here 
(university + my job), I'm experiencing big pressures from my thesis teacher 
and joining both GRASS and QGIS development team starts to be an hard thing 
for my poor spare time :-(

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim Sutton" <tim at linfiniti.com>
To: "Marco Pasetti" <marco.pasetti at alice.it>
Cc: <qgis-developer at lists.osgeo.org>
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 5:02 AM
Subject: Re: R: [Qgis-developer] GRASS Toolbox list view patch

Hi Marco

My feeling is to try to clean up the list filter and maybe and expand
all / collaps all to the tree view, and ship 0.11.0 with both
available in the toolbox. In the future we can try the more
sophisticated 'remember tree state' that you suggest.

Regarding MSVC, myself, Jürgen and maybe some others are building
under MSVC on a regular basis. The main area that needs to be
addressed is GRASS support. I believe Jürgen has it kinda working but
I have not as yet figured out how to get the GRASS stuff built under
MSVC. In terms of when we can release with MSVC rather than MINGW, we
should continue to support both, but my feeling is if you can do MSVC
release for 0.11.0 that would be great since it would give us a
chance to resolve issues before the final 1.0 release. I prefer the
idea of release MSVC built QGIS since the binary package is
considerably smaller and, although I havent benchmarked it, my
feeling is it performs better than the MSYS build (would be
interesting to verify this though).

Regards

Tim

Em May 29, 2008, às 1:03 PM, Marco Pasetti escreveu:

> Hi Tim,
>
> sorry for the delay, I'm very busy here!
>
> When I talked about expand/collapse GRASS Toolbox tree, I mainly  meant 
> that it would be better to start the toolbox tree collapsed,  instead of 
> expanded, because an expanded tree is too much  confusing, IMHO. Actually, 
> adding expand all/collapse all buttons  would be a great thing, along with 
> the capability of the toolbox to  *remember* the last *tree 
> configuration*: this because I guess that  the most users commonly use 
> only few modules, thus that they would  prefer to keep some parts of the 
> tree expanded, while other (rarely  used) collapsed.
>
> I'm finishing to configure my Vista machine (what a mess! 1 GB of  RAM 
> only for the OS, with all the feautures, processes and services  reduced 
> to the minimum necessary set!): on the next hours I'll  start to build on 
> Vista under the MSYS environment, updating some  libraries and adding some 
> other supports (such as OpenSSL, JPEG,  OGDI, GML and others...).
>
> This said, when do you think that QGIS will move from tha current  MSYS 
> build to the MSVC one?
>
> Regards,
>
> Marco
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tim Sutton
> To: Marco Pasetti
> Cc: qgis-developer at lists.osgeo.org
> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 2:55 AM
> Subject: Re: R: [Qgis-developer] GRASS Toolbox list view patch
>
> Hi Marco
>
> Thanks for the feedback. I will try to build under msvc here and see
> if I can address the issues with the plugin manager. I think Radim
> specifically expanded the tree in the grass toolbox because you can
> access each tool with a single click. Perhaps we can add some
> collapse all / expand all buttons to the toolbox to support both
> people who prefer it expanded and those who prefer it collapsed. Ill
> look into this.
>
> I tested the plugin manager with my msvc build and will commit a fix
> in a few minutes that should sort out the issue you were having.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Tim
>
>
> Em May 26, 2008, às 4:52 PM, Marco Pasetti escreveu:
>
> > Hi Tim,
> >
> > I built the latest svn trunk with your patch on windows (xp for the
> > moment,
> > on the next days also on Vista)
> >
> > 1. the idea for the grass toolbox is good (I mean the module list
> > with the
> > run-time type filter/search), but I think that:
> >
> > 1.1. we should start the grass toolbox tree collapsed instead of
> fully
> > expanded
> > 1.2. the font of the module tiltles should be a little bit smaller
> > 1.3. the module list tab still has some render problems
> > 1.4. I cannot select (that means start) the filtered modules
> >
> > 2. I have big rendering and selecting (check-boxes) problems with
> > the plugin
> > manager
> >
> > Sorry, I have no such spare time to make deeper analisys :-(
> >
> > All the best
> >
> > Marco
> >
> > -----Messaggio originale-----
> > Da: qgis-developer-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
> > [mailto:qgis-developer-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] Per conto di Tim
> > Sutton
> > Inviato: lunedì 26 maggio 2008 17.37
> > A: qgis-developer at lists.osgeo.org
> > Oggetto: [Qgis-developer] GRASS Toolbox list view patch
> >
> > Hi Folks
> >
> > Here is my first pass at a grass filtered list view for grass
> toolbox
> > (attached patch). There are still a few issues:
> >
> >   - checkboxes next to items need to be removed
> >   - filter box below list needs a label
> >   - some funny rendering happens on tab background on start up,
> > just click
> > to another tab and then back to the list view
> >
> > I've been thinking that it might be better to implement this 'as-
> > well- as'
> > the existing tree view, so that if you want to browse the tools by
> > heirachy
> > you still can, or if you want to quickly get all the tools that
> > e.g. work
> > with ascii, you can just type 'ascii' in the filter box and be on
> > your way.
> >
> > Anyway, will be interesting to get feedback from heavy grass users
> > is the
> > list box approach makes life easier or not. To apply the patch, go
> > to the
> > qgis top level dir and do:
> >
> > patch -p0 < grass_detailed_list_patch.diff
> >
> > You need to be using a current svn checkout for it to work properly
> > (r8522 or better).
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
>
> Tim Sutton
> QGIS Project Steering Committee Member - Release Manager
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Tim Sutton
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