[Qgis-developer] Poll about Windows Version

[Andreas Neumann]

Hoi Joaquim,

Thank you for your reply.

As it seems now, Jürgen can invest the time to work on it - and with
collaborative efforts and one major sponsor (Vorarlberg) we should be
able to finance it.

Jürgens main goal is to automate the build with the OSGeo4W build
system, so that the OSGeo4W distribution, the standalone installer, the
stable and developer version can all be built from the same sources and
build system.

As it looks currently, Jürgen can work on this in August and it should
then be ready with the QGIS 2.0 release - if there are no
major/unsolvable problems.

Thanks to all who replied so far and offered their help.

Andreas

Am 05.07.2013 16:32, schrieb Joaquim Luis:
> 
> Well, as mentioned here
> 
> http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/Fwd-QGIS-Desktop-Bug-8085-New-A-64-bits-build-on-Windows-crash-on-exit-td5060493.html
> 
> 
> I offered to help a bit with the 64 bits build. It's a pity that some
> bugs in the building system are not addressed yet (namely the some
> include libs being ignored).
> 
> If it is off interest this link has my dependencies with both 32 & 64
> all build with VS2010
> 
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/w85ib633hcua9lc/wPB-OXhQpG
> 
> The above misses the Qt and qscintilla because my local directory is not
> cleanly separated and it amounts to > 1.5 Gb.
> There is also no postgree libs not GRASS but the rest should be pretty
> complete.
> 
> I still not able to run the qgis64 with the python I used to compile it
> (Winpython 2.7.5 portable). As far as could debug it it stop with an
> error something like
> 
> "cannot evalString" when trying to load the plugin fTool
> 
> Hope it helps
> 
> Joaquim Luis
> 
>> Hi Kari,
>>
>> My message was meant to be "provoiking". People want everything - they
>> want a version 1.9. They want both 32bit and 64bit versions. But they
>> are not willing to contribute. They just take things for granted.
>>
>> I am aware that there are still 32bit machines around - but then these
>> computers must be at least 10 years old. For the past decade all
>> machines are 64bit capable.
>>
>> Maybe these NGOs just do not realize that their machines are 64bit
>> capable and that they can only gain from upgrading the software on their
>> machines (reusing the very same hardware).
>>
>> Even NGOs have resources - if they don't have financial resources they
>> should have at least human resources that could upgrade the operating
>> system on their computers. I would assume they would even be eligible
>> for free Windows upgrades given their non-profit status - or even better
>> - they could switch to Linux.
>>
>> I do not want to trigger a huge discussion here but rather tell people
>> that they have some sort of responsibility as QGIS users and should
>> contribute in some way.
>>
>> Andreas
>>
>> Am 05.07.2013 10:34, schrieb Kari Salovaara:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> QGIS is used by many environmental NGOs. Their work is most of the time
>>> based on voluntary work. These volunteers have quite often older
>>> machines ->  32bit.
>>> If 32bit is abandoned will QGIS community lose hundreds or thousands of
>>> users. The counter how many units (QGIS applications) has been
>>> downloaded does not show all these installations where only one package
>>> has been downloaded but installed into ten computers !
>>> Even if the summer is hot You should be calm when doing assessment when
>>> to drop 32bit out of games.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Kari
>>>
>>> On 05.07.2013 11:21, Régis Haubourg wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> I could support a part of the work for a 64 bit version if needed.
>>>>    That would be very much usefull for 2.0 here here. Last
>>>> discussions I
>>>> remember on 64 bits version said that Jef was taking charge of it.
>>>> Since we
>>>> have not seen any clear call for funding, funders probably didn't show
>>>> up.
>>>> Please confirm and help us estimate the needs.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, I think that we must not abandon 32 bit packages since many
>>>> users
>>>> still have old machines. QGis seems to grow as a tool used in poor
>>>> countries, for developpement projects, even if we don't have much
>>>> feedback
>>>> of that. Cutting some of them because of incompatible hardware could
>>>> be very
>>>> bad publicity.
>>>>
>>>> régis
>>>>
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