[Qgis-developer] Splash screen for 2.0

Andreas Neumann a.neumann at carto.net
Mon Sep 2 06:05:44 PDT 2013 

Hi,

Anita - thank you for working on the splash-screen.

@Matthias and @Marco: you can blame me for suggesting the "modern"
Swisstopo map rather than the Dufour or Siegfriedmap. I personally think
we can be proud of the current Swisstopo map - and as Larry said -
besides the cliff drawing I believe it can be made in QGIS.

I believe the modern map looks better than the original Dufour map - or
would you prefer to use theses older map designs when you go
mountaineering? This is not about belittling the work of Dufour - he was
great at his time and laid the foundation of todays modern Swisstopo
maps. Another advantage of using the modern map is that the map actually
shows the name "Dufourspitze", while the old Dufour map does not (he
couldn't name the highest point of Switzerland after himself) - others
did that for him later when he got famous.

For some background on the modern map: the shaded relief was made
manually with an airbrush and the cliff drawing was made manually years
ago by scribing on coated glass. Both the shaded reliefs and the cliff
drawing were scanned and are now updated in Photoshop whenever there are
updates (e.g. at retreating glaciers or when rockfalls happen).

All the other layers are made with GIS. It happens to be ESRI these days
but it could be QGIS in coming years, esp. if we continue to improve our
cartographic rules and toolboxes at the same rate we do today.

Anyway - I asked for permission and as long as we give credits in the
QGIS about screen (not on the splash screen) and do not surpass the size
of 500'000 pixels we are good to go. BTW: even with the older maps we
would have to cite the data source.

If people still prefer the older maps, please make a variation of
Anita's design by using the Dufour map - see
http://map.geo.admin.ch/?selectedNode=LT1_1&Y=633234&X=87325.5&zoom=6&bgLayer=ch.swisstopo.pixelkarte-farbe&layers=ch.swisstopo.hiks-dufour&layers_opacity=1&layers_visibility=true&time_current=latest&lang=de

We could than vote which map should be used as a background.

Andreas

Am 01.09.2013 21:35, schrieb Matthias Kuhn:
> Hi,
> 
> It probably seems strange to me (and Marco), as this is my everyday map 
> and I have a totally different association than QGIS to this.
> But as there is not much response to this, I guess there are not many 
> concerns around.
> 
> As a reminder concerning the swisstopo map, we are also not allowed to 
> use this at a resolution exceeding 500'000 pixels.
> The picture with the Hotel Schwarzsee which Marco cited is also 
> available at a higher resolution (to some extent at the expense of some 
> blurryness) [1]
> 
> Regards,
> Matthias
> 
> [1] 
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5c/Monte_Rosa_and_Hotel_Schwarzsee%2C_Valais%2C_Alps_of%2C_Switzerland.jpg
> 
> On Sam 31 Aug 2013 15:04:50 CEST, Anita Graser wrote:
>> Hi Matthias,
>>
>> Thank your four raising these points.
>>
>> Am 31.08.2013, 13:04 Uhr, schrieb Matthias Kuhn <matthias.kuhn at gmx.ch>:
>>> However, I'm still not really convinced of using a background of a
>>> modern (admittedly visually appealing) map service which has no
>>> relation to and is by no means produced with the help of QGIS.
>>
>> I understand your concern but I'm not sure how big an issue it would be.
>> In my opinion, the design is very artistic and clearly not a result which
>> could be achieved directly in a QGIS but which requires serious
>> cartographic skill.
>>
>> As a reference, here is the design with the old black-and-white map
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/48244569@N02/9637382664/
>>
>>> I was looking for other
>>> images, which are not maps, but nevertheless artistic work with spatial
>>> nature and cannot be mistaken (at least I believe so) to be a result of
>>> QGIS.
>>> So here some pictures I found
>>
>> Sorry, but none of those are an option in my opinion. I think they look
>> very dull and I would not like to look at them every day. On the
>> technical
>> side, they are of very low resolution and some blurry. I would like to
>> see
>> the splash screen design reflected on the new website as well, so the
>> material should work at different resolutions.
>>
>> I'm open to try different background maps of the agreed region but they
>> should be available in a reasonable resolution.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> Anita
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Monte_Rosa_and_Hotel_Schwarzsee,_Valais,_Alps_of,_Switzerland.jpg
>>>
>>> http://www.festivaltour.de/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4817&d=1358685981
>>>
>>> http://www.gemeinschaftskatalog.de/GK/stra/Bilder/435%20Nolde-Dufour.jpg
>>> http://rlv.zcache.de/monte_rosa_lyskamm_mit_gorner_gletscher_wallis_postkarte-r81b50da849b8458b9a2aa7b91bd5120f_vgbaq_8byvr_512.jpg
>>>
>>> http://www.historisches-alpenarchiv.org/data/bilder/web/143/00109153_w.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not sure about the rights we have to get to use them, but they are
>>> ancient, so I guess that should not be a problem?
>>>
>>> Matthias
>>>
>>> On Sam 31 Aug 2013 12:31:28 CEST, Anita Graser wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> It's time to get the splash ready. This thread seems to agree with the
>>>> general direction of the drafts Nathan posted. I've therefore prepared
>>>> three variants of the design:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/48244569@N02/9633228465/in/photostream/
>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/48244569@N02/9633228767/in/photostream/
>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/48244569@N02/9633228881/in/photostream/
>>>>
>>>> Please use the star feature to vote on the design(s) you prefer and
>>>> leave comments on the image page if you think something should be
>>>> changed. I'll check all the feedback and create the final version on
>>>> Sunday evening (Sept 1st, CEST).
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes,
>>>> Anita
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 23.07.2013, 09:35 Uhr, schrieb Tim Sutton <lists at linfiniti.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi
>>>>>
>>>>> My 2c below:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 6:29 PM, Larry Shaffer
>>>>> <larrys at dakotacarto.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 6:57 PM, Nathan Woodrow
>>>>>> <madmanwoo at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here is a version with the green but also the full logo:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/u6bj807cesttnwl/qgis_green3.png
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> +1, I think the layout and color selection are good. The layout
>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>> include that dark grey border, does it? If so, please consider
>>>>>> removing it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I think the Q logo should be smaller, say 1/3 the splash hight and
>>>>> nestled
>>>>> into the top left corner (with some white space around it) and with no
>>>>> transparency.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, the font used for 'QGIS' is rather weak and, to be frank, a bit
>>>>>> goofy-looking (especially the Q). I have a huge assortment of
>>>>>> professional
>>>>>> fonts which I can work with to find something better.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Agreed - though can you please use a font that is free or at  least
>>>>> easily
>>>>> available and provide the final splash as a gimp xcf so that we can
>>>>> easily
>>>>> re-use it in future releases.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nathan, do you have a working design file I can use? Or at least a
>>>>>> background PNG without the lettering?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There appears to be no leading between the lines 'QGIS 2.0' and
>>>>>> 'Dufour,'
>>>>>> nor spacing between 'QGIS' and '2.0.' Was this intended? I do kind
>>>>>> of like
>>>>>> the effect, however. Usually when this is done in design, at
>>>>>> minimum, the
>>>>>> coloring of the two words/lines is different, even if just a
>>>>>> difference in
>>>>>> tone of the same color.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I agree with this, it needs a little more white space between the
>>>>> words.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also a note that we usually store the master splash in  much higher
>>>>> resolution so that it can be used in posters / printed products etc. A
>>>>> downsampled one is then used for the final splash. Ideally in future
>>>>> releases we would just swap out the background image and edit the text
>>>>> containing the version and name.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Tim
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Larry
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  - Nathan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 1:18 AM, Marco Bernasocchi <
>>>>>>> marco at bernawebdesign.ch> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 07/16/2013 03:02 PM, Matthias Kuhn wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Currently, all splash screen drafts I have seen are heavily
>>>>>>>> based on
>>>>>>>>> swisstopo maps. While I personally like these very well-done
>>>>>>>>> maps, I
>>>>>>>>> don't see the connection between these and QGIS. For me, looking
>>>>>>>>> at the
>>>>>>>>> splashes feels like looking at a swisstopo advertisement.
>>>>>>>>> I would prefer a version, where we show off the new features of
>>>>>>>>> QGIS
>>>>>>>>> and/or having a historical map instead of just showing a standard
>>>>>>>>> product of the official Swiss map-makers.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I agree with Matthias, and I'll suggest again (as Andreas did
>>>>>>>> before) to
>>>>>>>> try the dufour map:
>>>>>>>> http://s.geo.admin.ch/**09751c84f<http://s.geo.admin.ch/09751c84f>or
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> maybe the sigfriedkarte
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ciao
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Marco Bernasocchi
>>>>>>>> http://opengis.ch
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