[Qgis-developer] Memory Layers - some proposals
Denis Rouzaud
denis.rouzaud at gmail.com
Wed Sep 24 22:15:53 PDT 2014
On 25.09.2014 04:02, Mathieu Pellerin wrote:
> Regarding the saving aspect of it, IMO it needs to be worked out. I've
> had a couple of users over here already reporting "data loss" with the
> following scenario:
> 1. Open his/her project
> 2. Copies one polygon from a large dataset and pastes is as a new
> memory layer (very useful feature introduced in QGIS 2.x)
> 3. Styles the memory layer, and saves the project
> 4. The next day, when he/she re-opens the project, the polygon is gone
>
> Throughout the above mentioned workflow, there was never _any_
> indication that the pasted memory layer would not be saved when saving
> the project.
>
> If QGIS further ease access to memory layers via incorporating the new
> memory layer function into the core (which I hope its done :) ), and
> decide against saving across project session, then there must be a UX
> to deal with that, instead of silently killing the data of the memory
> layer(s). One way forward would be to have a warning upon closing a
> project that has non-saveable memory layers to warn the users. That
> warning should offer for users to save the memory layers onto a proper
> format (possibly like the missing layer dialog, with a list of all the
> memory layers and an input to add the saved file location/name).
I would be in favor of a warning when first create a memory layer. The
warning would say you can't save them except from using a plugin. And,
there would be a checkbox "do not display this warning anymore".
>
> Math
>
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 4:07 AM, Martin Dobias <wonder.sk at gmail.com
> <mailto:wonder.sk at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi Nyall
>
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 3:31 AM, Nyall Dawson
> <nyall.dawson at gmail.com <mailto:nyall.dawson at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > The recent discussion around memory layers in another thread has
> started me
> > thinking about the best way to expose them more readily to users.
> >
> > As such, I've opened a pull request which ports Borys Jurgiel's
> "New Memory
> > Layer" plugin to core (PR #1591). Hopefully this can be merged
> for 2.6. It's
> > more or less a direct port - I've left it without the ability to
> specify
> > fields at creation time as I believe that field creation would
> indicate that
> > we are encouraging users to store real data in these layers,
> which is
> > something we should avoid.
>
> Cool - from time to time it is handy to make a memory layer for some
> temporary data and having to use a plugin / python console for the
> creation is suboptimal...
>
> > What I'm thinking though is that we should rename "memory
> layers" within the
> > UI. The name suggests that they are remembered, and conveys more
> of a
> > permanent feel.
> >
> > I think that for 2.6 we could rename them to "temporary scratch
> layers", and
> > then for >2.6 (after we port the memory layer saving
> plugin/decide on a
> > suitable format for saving them) drop the " temporary" part of
> this name. So
> > they'll be just "scratch layers".
>
> I like the name "scratch layer" - and I wouldn't mind having it from
> 2.6 even without the "temporary" part although there is no saving for
> it. (Saving is still a bit controversial for me as we would
> inadvertently create another vector file format - unless we would ask
> user to save the layer data into one of OGR supported formats or
> spatialite DB.)
>
> Cheers
> Martin
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