[Qgis-developer] QGIS update available plugin and/or ping back plugin

[Nathan Woodrow]

+1 to opt in only

On Mon, 3 Aug 2015 8:48 pm Alessandro Pasotti <apasotti at gmail.com> wrote:

> 2015-08-03 12:39 GMT+02:00 Vincent Picavet (ml) <vincent.ml at oslandia.com>:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> On 03/08/2015 10:23, Richard Duivenvoorde wrote:
>> > In a separate thread, Neal raises the point below. Moving it to a
>> > separate thread here.
>> >
>> > Nyal asks: "... On a semi-related theme, we really need a core "QGIS
>> > update available" plugin. I suspect there's a ton of users still on
>> > 2.8.0/.1/<2.8 just due to not knowing there's a new version out. This
>> > could also be really handy for tracking stats of users..."
>> >
>> > @Nyall: we already have an menu item: Help/Check QGIS version
>> > But I just checked, and in 2.8.3 it says that I should update to 2.10,
>> > so I think that is more or less broken since we do LTR versions...
>>
>> Repairing this feature, and maybe having an automated background check
>> at startup would be good for this feature.
>>
>> > And we did have this ping back discussion earlier, resulting in "we
>> > cannot do it because of the privacy issues".
>> >
>> > Though I'm pretty privacy-minded, I am actually in favour of a ping
>> back!
>> >
>> > Given the following plan, does that guarantee enough privacy for people
>> > who were against it earlier:
>> >
>> > - during first creation of .qgis2 user folder (upon first installation)
>> > we generate some uuid (based on currentime+somerandom)
>> > - upon later startups QGIS fires a HTTP GET request to a webserver which
>> > contains this UUID + the language + current version used
>> > - this request is handled by a separate apache or nginx server which
>> > does nothing more then logging this, and returning the (for that branch)
>> > latest version. Which is checked for by QGIS
>> > - by simple analysing the logs (grepping) we can have some info about
>> > our user-base (number of installs given a period of time) and even a
>> > live 'currently QGISsing'-guess :-)
>> >
>> > Can privacy concerning people live with this plan?
>>
>> Not me.
>>
>> Any personal information sent by the user should only be done on a
>> volontary basis.
>>
>> I would agree with this if :
>> * This is optional
>> * This is not activated by default
>> * The installer could ask the user if he wants to send statistics to the
>> QGIS project, with a list of data items sent.
>>
>> > As an argument to allowing these pingbacks, as we/I invest pretty much
>> > time in localisation around QGIS, it would make me feel better if I know
>> > that all this work is actually be used by some people :-)
>>
>> User statistics are indeed very important. Privacy is just way more
>> important, especially in these troubled times. I do think we, as
>> opensource community members, and digital era citizens, have to show the
>> way. Do not ever do things users would consider evil without getting
>> their agreement.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Vincent
>>
>>
>
> I fully agree with Vincent's opinion.
>
> Regards.
>
>
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