[Qgis-developer] Release schedule discussion - again

[Mathieu Pellerin]

Arg I meant to say feature parity between QGIS with qt4 and QGIS with qt5.
Darn smartphones.
On 14 Oct 2015 20:20, "Mathieu Pellerin" <nirvn.asia at gmail.com> wrote:

> I really like the idea of making one of the focus of the next dev cycle to
> be qt5. Even if 2.14 is still compiled against 2.14 by default, it'd be
> great to attempt to reach user experience parity between 2.14 & 2.15 on the
> major platforms QGIS is shipped on.
>
> Having faced the need to compiled and used QGIS using qt5 libs less than
> two weeks ago to fix an issue in qt4, it's nice to see that things mostly
> work, but it did show some fine tuning is needed (cmake logic refinements
> to handle qt5 libraries, finding a way to deal with qtwpolar, and in-app
> issues like broken keyboard shortcuts etc.).
>
> Maybe a hackfest where every dev work on their area of code against qt5
> would be cool to finance? :)
>
> M
> On 14 Oct 2015 20:08, "Larry Shaffer" <larrys at dakotacarto.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 6:59 AM, Nathan Woodrow <madmanwoo at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't think having Qt5 on OSX is so much the issue but the change the
>>> PyQt5/Python3 as that has the larger impact because it changes all the
>>> plugins.
>>>
>>
>> Makes sense, especially since PyQt4 can be built against Qt4 or Qt5. Then
>> maybe it is reasonable to have the 2.13 dev cycle focus mainly on moving to
>> Qt5, so that it results in a 2.14 LTR that works with Qt5? Then, break API
>> and introduce Py3 with 3.0 (assuming 2.14 is last 2.x release)?
>>
>> Would having a 2.14 LTR that works with Qt5 poorly affect other platforms?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Larry Shaffer
>> Dakota Cartography
>> Black Hills, South Dakota
>>
>>
>>> - Nathan
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 10:57 PM, Larry Shaffer <larrys at dakotacarto.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 6:06 AM, Paolo Cavallini <cavallini at faunalia.it
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Il 14/10/2015 13:58, Larry Shaffer ha scritto:
>>>>>
>>>>> > With regards to Mac and Qt4 support, it may be that even an LTR 2.14
>>>>> > release will have a very short lifespan, given that the next Mac OS
>>>>> > upgrade will probably significantly break Qt4; and, I seriously doubt
>>>>> > there will be people wanting to resurrect Qt4 again.
>>>>>
>>>>> so, wouldn't this be a strong argument against 2.14 as an LTR?
>>>>> I understand the same will hold true for Debian/Ubuntu as well.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Touché, Paolo. You are probably right here, though there are still a
>>>> couple of unknowns at this point.
>>>>
>>>> By "very short lifespan" I am referring to the next Mac OS (10.12?),
>>>> which not everyone will use. It is unknown at this time whether Qt4 can be
>>>> made to support it (maybe we get lucky again and it doesn't break Qt4 much
>>>> more). On the other hand, I still get requests to support 10.6 (from 2009)
>>>> for nightlies.
>>>>
>>>> If we look at some basic Mac OS adoption trends by users [0], it is
>>>> apparent that they adopt the latest OS much more so than users of Windows.
>>>> However, it is unclear how much this reflects the general Mac QGIS user's
>>>> OS adoption rate (guessing it is roughly equivalent).
>>>>
>>>> Basically, as Nyall has pointed out, something needs done for Mac ASAP,
>>>> not 4 or 8 or 12 months from now. Towards a solution, I would like to start
>>>> providing a Qt5-based nightly for Mac (after 2.12 is released).
>>>>
>>>> [0]
>>>> https://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=10&qpcustomd=0&qpsp=2015&qpnp=1&qptimeframe=Y
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Larry Shaffer
>>>> Dakota Cartography
>>>> Black Hills, South Dakota
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> all the best.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Paolo Cavallini - www.faunalia.eu
>>>>> QGIS & PostGIS courses: http://www.faunalia.eu/training.html
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