[Qgis-developer] Future of OpenLayers plugin - time to deprecate?

Mon Jan 4 00:52:44 PST 2016

On 4 January 2016 at 19:45, Alexander Bruy <alexander.bruy at gmail.com> wrote:
> IMO it is much better to develop native TMS data provider.
> In this case 3rd party plugins will be able to add TMS layers
> as we already can do with WMS/WFS/etc. Also we will have
> same mechanism to deal with layer objects.

Another +1.

I've got a vague recollection that someone filed a PR maybe 2 years or
so ago for a native c++ TMS provider... does anyone recall anything
about this?

Nyall

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> 2016-01-02 0:59 GMT+02:00 Victor Olaya <volayaf at gmail.com>:
>> I like the idea of promoting the QuickMapServices plugin instead of
>> the OpenLayers one, but I would go even further. This is a
>> functionality that would be good to have without having to install a
>> plugin, so why not making it a core plugin? (provided that it is
>> rather stable already and works fine). I am sure it would be a
>> welcomed addition to QGIS.
>>
>> An entry in the Layer menu (something like "Add base layer") makes
>> sense to me, and it will solve the issue with the plugin name not
>> being too clear, as someone pointed out.
>>
>> My 2 cents
>>
>> 2016-01-01 22:00 GMT+01:00 Pirmin Kalberer <pi_ml at sourcepole.com>:
>>> Am Donnerstag, 31. Dezember 2015, 11.53:47 schrieb Bernd Vogelgesang:
>>>> +1 for deprecating.
>>>> I think the "popularity" of OpenLayers only derives from the fact that it
>>>> was the only plugin available serving basemaps for a long time and that it
>>>> is mentioned all around the web in tutorials etc.
>>>> Most of my collegues with less experience frequently step into the traps
>>>> and digitize stuff only to find later that the result is shifted or the
>>>> map is not printable.
>>>>
>>>> I skipped it already a long time ago and tried to compensate it by finding
>>>> other sources like WMS etc which is not so easy over here in Germany
>>>> (especially since the built-in WMS Server Search results are completely
>>>> outdated for a long time).
>>>>
>>>> Since the QuickMapServices plugin is there, I always recommend that.
>>>> If this plugin would become the "successor" of OpenLayers, it would be
>>>> nice to know why those most popular sources like Bing etc are "hidden" in
>>>> the contributed services. Legal issues?
>>>
>>> The usage of Bing as TMS is now legal AFAIK. Using Google as TMS is against
>>> Googles Terms of Service. That's why the OpenLayer plugin uses OpenLayers
>>> (sic!) for Google layers, which complicates a lot of things.
>>> BTW, the master branch of OpenLayers also uses TMS where (legally) possible,
>>> which solves most printing problems, etc.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Pirmin
>>>
>>> --
>>> Pirmin Kalberer - @PirminKalberer
>>> Sourcepole - http://www.sourcepole.com
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I already proposed to the developers to rename their plugin to "Basemaps",
>>>> cause thats what it is actually about and which is a lot easier to
>>>> understand and memorize.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Bernd
>>>>
>>>> Am 31.12.2015, 07:17 Uhr, schrieb Paolo Cavallini <cavallini at faunalia.it>:
>>>> > Deprecating it makes sense to me, unless authors plan to fix the long
>>>> > standing issues.
>>>> > Thanks for raising this.
>>>> > All the best.
>>>> >
>>>> > Il 31 dicembre 2015 06:47:08 CET, h <hdixon at bigpond.net.au> ha scritto:
>>>> >> On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 22:42:27 -0500
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Randal Hale <rjhale at northrivergeographic.com> wrote:
>>>> >>> As a non-developer if I can chip in my .02 cents worth - I think
>>>> >>> deprecating it might be a good thing. To me it was always a plugin
>>>> >>> that received a lot of applause - but the one that would cause the
>>>> >>> most questions ("why can't I use this imagery in map composer").
>>>> >>> While I liked having access to google/bing imagery - it always made
>>>> >>> me more uncomfortable having it there because of the terms of service.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>I didn't know that QuickMapServices was a plugin - and after looking
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> at it I think most people will have a problem because there is no
>>>> >>> google/bing imagery in that one. In the US I have enough choices for
>>>> >>> imagery - and that might not be the case everywhere else. I'm unsure
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> how up to date MapQuest Aerial is - but better than nothing.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I got caught on that one.
>>>> >> In QuickMapServices>Settings there is a "Contributed Services" tile.
>>>> >> Select "Get Contributed Services" and a whole lot of stuff, including
>>>> >> Bing and Google are provided.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> To me QMS makes "Open layers" obsolete - but it needs a bit more
>>>> >> documentation on how to get Bing etc!!!
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On principle I am against retirement, but am not aware of a strong
>>>> >> argument against it for Open Layers.  (Something I have used and valued
>>>> >> for quite some time..)
>>>> >> H
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> Possibly add a pop-up/warning on the open layers plugin since it is
>>>> >>> popular - "We are in the process of deprecating this plugin".
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>Other than that - +1 for retirement.
>>>> >>>Randy
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>On 12/30/2015 09:42 PM, Nyall Dawson wrote:
>>>> >>>> On 31 December 2015 at 13:29, Joshua Quesenberry
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> <engnfrc at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>>> If the plugin is deprecated, what is replacing it? I find the
>>>> >>>>> plugin to be very useful.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> QuickMapServices. It's got numerous improvements over OpenLayers,
>>>> >>>> including reprojection support and not breaking the map composer.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Nyall
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> >>>>> From: Qgis-developer
>>>> >>>>> [mailto:qgis-developer-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Tom
>>>> >>>>> Chadwin Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 5:46 PM To:
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> qgis-developer at lists.osgeo.org Subject: Re: [Qgis-developer]
>>>> >>>>> Future of OpenLayers plugin - time to deprecate?
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> I think deprecation and removal would be good, but for a
>>>> >>>>> tangential reason: the name conflicts with OpenLayers the web
>>>> >>>>> mapping library. A trivial reason at best, but probably irritating
>>>> >>>>> to many, and potentially confusing to users.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
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