I agree with Agustin. <br><br>Here in my University, QGIS is seen as a 'buggy' software, so some professors and lecturers are not considering it anymore and are choosing proprietary software for the exercises. In such a scenario there is nothing a promoter of FOSS4G (and specially QGIS) like me can do to revert things. <br>
<br>I myself stopped installing each QGIS new version in my laptop because I know there are lots of bugs I don't want to deal with, so I stuck to a version I know works in a predictable way. I've also reported some bugs but nothing seems to happen with the report after a while and that discourages users like me. For me it seems that the bug doesn't care anyone, not even the author of the module/plug-in. I remember some time ago I enjoyed fixing small bugs in the QGIS Table of contents (TOC) but it turned out the TOC was totally changed afterwards (by the way, I find annoying to move layers in this new TOC.) <br>
<br>I think you already suggested something like an ongoing contest of bug fixes. I thing this simple thing could encourage people to visit the bug tracker and see what they can fix. Of course, I don't know whether you have enough time to arrange it.<br>
<br>Just my 2 cents.<br><br>Regards, <br><br>Germán<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/12/17 Agustin Lobo <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:alobolistas@gmail.com">alobolistas@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex">
I agree with Paolo and furthermore think that taking action is urgent:<br>
qgis has a serious risk of getting the label of "unreliable tool" and<br>
that label will be very difficult to overcome afterwards.<br>
I personally confess I feel uncomfortable every time I use it for a<br>
course because you never know<br>
what bugs the students are going to find. This last time has worked<br>
quite well (except on Macs, where<br>
it has shown to be very unstable), but thanks to the fact that I<br>
realized the error in georeferencing before the class and<br>
skipped that exercise. Otherwise, can you imagine the opinion of the<br>
students towards qgis after<br>
getting the result shown earlier in this thread? On the other hand,<br>
styling of rasters is so insufficient that I have to use other<br>
software to explain the parts related to operations through histogram.<br>
<br>
I personally think that if we are a sufficient number of users willing<br>
to act as testers we should start doing it right now, not waiting for<br>
the result of discussions any more.We should consider all releases of<br>
qgis as RC for us and publish the results of<br>
our testing as soon as we can after the release. The rest of users<br>
will decide upon our results. I understand the interest of many<br>
developers is having qgis as a test bed and not a producing<br>
environment and I respect that point of view that makes possible that<br>
so many improvements and new tools become widely distributed, but<br>
users requiring a reliable tool must have a tested software with a<br>
clear summary of the operational problems they will face.<br>
<br>
Agus<br>
<br>
<br>
2011/12/16 Paolo Cavallini <<a href="mailto:cavallini@faunalia.it">cavallini@faunalia.it</a>>:<br>
<div><div></div><div class="h5">> Il 16/12/2011 18:53, Werner Macho ha scritto:<br>
><br>
>> I dont think we need a Release Candidate cycle - From my point that will<br>
>> bring only more "confuse" into the release cycle..<br>
><br>
> So why most respected and established projects follow this route?<br>
> Now QGIS is used very widely in professional contexts, and releasing supposedly<br>
> stable packages with nasty regressions (as it is happening) brings no good to our<br>
> users and reputation.<br>
> I think our QA approach should improve, one way or another.<br>
> All the best.<br>
> --<br>
> Paolo Cavallini - Faunalia<br>
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