<div dir="auto"><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 24 Mar 2026, 8:02 pm Régis Haubourg via QGIS-Developer, <<a href="mailto:qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org">qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u>

  
    
  
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    <p>Maybe we could add a mechanism where proj grid files can be
      imported to the user profile, so any user could download grids. </p></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Well, we already have <a href="https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/31622">https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/31622</a></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Is that what you mean?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Nyall</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>
    <p>Some caveats to avoid with multi profile management. I'd be in
      favor of storing proj grids once per user $APPDATA profile, not in
      each QGIS profile</p>
    <pre cols="72">Bien cordialement, 
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    <div>On 24/03/2026 10:29, Matthias Kuhn via
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      <div dir="ltr">Hi all,
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        <div>Thanks for raising this discussion, Tim.</div>
        <div>There recently was a discussion about that on a github
          issue.</div>
        <div>The new macOS packages didn't ship grid packages out of the
          box in the beginning and this was a blocker for some users so
          I ended up bundling the data files again with the macOS
          packages. The full discussion can be seen here <a href="https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/64486" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/64486</a></div>
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        <div>Key takeaways for me: If we want to split this apart, we
          need to make it very easy for users to install missing bits,
          the current process would need some improvements. If this is
          shipped as a separate installer package, we need to make sure
          it works across all platforms.</div>
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        <div>Kind regards</div>
        <div>Matthias</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 24, 2026 at
          9:33 AM Alexander Bruy via QGIS-Developer <<a href="mailto:qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org</a>>
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            <div>If I'm not wrong, our standalone installer is based on
              the OSGeo4W and installs the latter. So users can easily</div>
            <div>use the OSGeo4W installer to download any additional
              dependencies they want/need.</div>
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            <div>Another option would be to add an option to the
              standalone installer to download grids, similarly to what
              we had</div>
            <div>in the old NSIS installer for Alaska dataset.</div>
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            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">пн, 23 бер. 2026 р. о
              09:20 Tim Sutton via QGIS-Developer <<a href="mailto:qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org</a>>
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                  <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:large">Hi
                    all</div>
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                  <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:large">Here
                    in the infrastructure management club for QGIS we
                    have been embarking on a plan to slowly divest
                    ourselves of 'big tech'. At the end of last year we
                    switched off cloudflare CDN and implemented our own
                    caching servers. At that time we were doing around
                    130TB of throughput (including what was being soaked
                    up by Cloudflare). As of last month we did 430TB of
                    throughput without the help of Cloudflare. </div>
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                  <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:large">We
                    are trying to optimise costs - that bandwidth alone
                    cost us in the neighbourhood of 500€ per month. To
                    reduce costs we can approach the problem in two way:</div>
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                  <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:large">1.
                    optimise the infrastructure - we (QGIS Devops team)
                    are busy looking into ways to do that...</div>
                  <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:large">2.
                    reduce the download size...</div>
                  <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br>
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                  <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:large">We
                    are wondering if the datum shift files could be
                    split out from the main installer and fetched as an
                    optional extra? Or maybe on demand as you need them?
                    We could set up some infrastructure for hosting
                    them, but we would need some help on the application
                    side to implement logic to go and grab shift files
                    that are not locally cached. Is anyone able to help
                    with this?</div>
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                  <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:large">Regards</div>
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