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<p>Haaa laughing of myself :) </p>
<p>Sorry for the noise. </p>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Bien cordialement,
Régis Haubourg</pre>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 24/03/2026 12:02, Nyall Dawson
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8:02 pm Régis Haubourg via QGIS-Developer, <<a
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<p>Maybe we could add a mechanism where proj grid files
can be imported to the user profile, so any user could
download grids. </p>
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<div dir="auto">Well, we already have <a
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<div dir="auto">Is that what you mean?</div>
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<p>Some caveats to avoid with multi profile management.
I'd be in favor of storing proj grids once per user
$APPDATA profile, not in each QGIS profile</p>
<pre cols="72">Bien cordialement,
Régis Haubourg</pre>
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<div>Thanks for raising this discussion, Tim.</div>
<div>There recently was a discussion about that on a
github issue.</div>
<div>The new macOS packages didn't ship grid
packages out of the box in the beginning and this
was a blocker for some users so I ended up
bundling the data files again with the macOS
packages. The full discussion can be seen here <a
href="https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/64486"
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<div>Key takeaways for me: If we want to split this
apart, we need to make it very easy for users to
install missing bits, the current process would
need some improvements. If this is shipped as a
separate installer package, we need to make sure
it works across all platforms.</div>
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<div>If I'm not wrong, our standalone installer
is based on the OSGeo4W and installs the
latter. So users can easily</div>
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additional dependencies they want/need.</div>
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<div>Another option would be to add an option to
the standalone installer to download grids,
similarly to what we had</div>
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<div class="gmail_default"
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infrastructure management club for QGIS
we have been embarking on a plan to
slowly divest ourselves of 'big tech'.
At the end of last year we switched off
cloudflare CDN and implemented our own
caching servers. At that time we were
doing around 130TB of throughput
(including what was being soaked up by
Cloudflare). As of last month we did
430TB of throughput without the help of
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optimise costs - that bandwidth alone
cost us in the neighbourhood of 500€ per
month. To reduce costs we can approach
the problem in two way:</div>
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<div class="gmail_default"
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infrastructure - we (QGIS Devops team)
are busy looking into ways to do that...</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
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download size...</div>
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the datum shift files could be split out
from the main installer and fetched as
an optional extra? Or maybe on demand as
you need them? We could set up some
infrastructure for hosting them, but we
would need some help on the application
side to implement logic to go and grab
shift files that are not locally cached.
Is anyone able to help with this?</div>
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