[Qgis-psc] Possible funding for devs to begin Qt5/Python 3.0 port?

[Anita Graser]

On Oct 25, 2015 12:25 AM, "Tim Sutton" <tim at qgis.org> wrote:
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> Hi
>
>> On 24 Oct 2015, at 01:31, Nyall Dawson <nyall.dawson at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi PSC,
>>
>> Discussion is ramping up on the dev list and on
>> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Enhancement-Proposals/pull/24 regarding
>> the timeline for the Qt5/Python 3.0 transition.
>>
>> I'm writing to PSC to start discussion about whether QGIS org would be
>> able to sponsor some work to allow this transition to occur. It's a
>> considerable/difficult/thankless task and requires quite specialised
>> knowledge, and without sponsorship I can't see this work happening
>> quickly.
>>
>> My recommendation (from a dev's POV) would be that both Matthias and
>> Jürgen would be ideal candidates for this (given their demonstrated
>> experience/knowledge with the required work). Jürgen for the work
>> required in preparing the Windows dependencies for the OSGEO4W builds,
>> and Matthias for the work required in transitioning the main codebase
>> to Qt5 exclusive builds and for moving Travis CI builds to this setup
>> too. Possibly funding for OSX packaging (Larry/William?) and Python
>> 3.0 transition (maybe Nathan would be a good candidate for this?)
>> could also be explored.
>>
>> Could this be discussed amongst PSC members and a decision relayed so
>> that we can take this into account while planning for the transition
>> timeline?
>
>
> From me its an automatic +1 I’ve been following along on the discussions
and it seems like some consensus is being reached about how to move
forward. The only question from my side is really how much funds we can
allocate while not totally depleting our reserves - something that Andreas
is better placed to tell us.
>
> I have been also wondering if the scope of 3.0 should not also include
HIG review because in my opinion the QGIS UI is becoming very hard to
navigate, many dialogs are poorly laid out, its hard to find options and so
on.
>
> Similarly with plugins I think we need to establish clear HIG guidelines
and start thinking about a much more heavily curated library of plugins (I
know there is also discussion about this going on in the dev mailing list).
>
> Also documentation really needs to thinking about in order to make it
sustainable - with our multiple help systems, etc. plus the massive effort
required to maintain the user manual we really need to take a step back and
think how we can manage all these things more effectively - and fund
someone like Otto or Richard to do it.
>
> My point really is when planning how to spend our money lets think more
broadly than just which developer activities to fund and rather think about
establishing budgets for different project activities and then fairly
spread the money between these (or make a concerted fund raising programme
to facilitate everything needed for a very professional 3.0 delivery).

We should talk budget and strategy at the dev meeting. Maybe you could make
some suggestions for time slots which work for a video chat with you Tim.

Best wishes
Anita

>
> Regards
>
> Tim
>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Nyall
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