[Qgis-psc] Supporting QGIS Server development

Fri Jun 23 11:22:42 PDT 2017

Hi Andreas

If the amounts will probably be above and beyond our discretionary spend
budget, we should just call for a loomio vote to keep things transparent.
If it is within a budget allocation then please just move forward and do
it. If we need to go the loomio route, I think we can do it with a 1 week
time frame. Can you provide me with the wording for the proposal and I will
post it?

Regards

Tim

On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 5:57 PM, Andreas Neumann <andreas at qgis.org> wrote:

> HI all,
>
> So I wonder how we can proceed here. Some agree, there is noone that
> disagrees but no decision?
>
> How can we proceed? Do we need a Loomio vote from voting members or is a
> PSC decision enough?
>
> It seems like all agree about the 3k contribution for the WXS parser
> removal project from 3Liz, but how about the other plans from Oslandia? Do
> we need more information about these additional projects?
>
> Tim - I am specifically asking you for a decision on the way forward -
> otherwise we will still discuss the same issues in 2-3 weeks from now and
> QGIS 3 will be released without a proper rewrite of QGIS server.
>
> If we can set a transparent decision process we can use the same process
> for other similar projects (in or outside of the QGIS grants process).
>
> Thanks,
> Andreas
>
> On 20 June 2017 at 22:47, Tim Sutton <tim at qgis.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> +1 from me to support the refactoring work with 3k EUROS.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 5:32 PM, Régis Haubourg <regis.haubourg at gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> that is very good news that we find some QGIS.org funds to support some
>>> low level tasks that remain really hard to fund otherwise.
>>> 3liz truely deserve this support since they put huge efforts in QGIS
>>> server refactoring, thanks again to them for that. Thanks Andreas for
>>> pushing this topic again.
>>>
>>>
>>> Following the status update on qgis server refactoring made here [0],
>>> here another update:
>>>
>>> - we finally have our new website and published two web articles on QGIS
>>> server security stress tests [1] and OGC compliancy testing framework [2]
>>>
>>> - Paul finished GetLegend graphics refactor [3]
>>>
>>> - René Luc finished GetCapabilities /  GetContext / DescribeLayer / GetStyles
>>> (GetStyle)
>>>
>>> So now, mandatory actions pending now, René-Luc, Yves, please correct me
>>> and tell us how much you need  :
>>>
>>> - Richard, we got distracted by some mail routing troubles, did you have
>>> Paul's mail for finding a way to push the OGC html reports to test.
>>> qgis.org ?
>>>
>>> -  GetPrint todo by Oslandia.  ~ at least 5000 euros but composer rework
>>> can change it all.
>>>
>>> -  GetFeatureInfo, DXFWriter by 3Liz
>>>
>>> - Testing by Real Users before during feature freeze :)
>>>
>>> - Try to reach a 100 % OGC compliancy by fixing issues or disabling some
>>> very edge cases. We are currently limited by TeamEgine tool crashes. Paul
>>> is hot on doing the job, but we'll need funding. I would start asking to
>>> something like 5000 euros and see what we can do with it.
>>>
>>> I can't evaluate the other tasks like pushing the performance benchmark
>>> framework and define the reference test set in it.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Régis
>>>
>>> [0] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/qgis-psc/2017-May/005316.html
>>> [1] http://oslandia.com/en/2017/06/14/qgis-server-security-aspect/
>>> [2] http://oslandia.com/en/2017/06/16/qgis-server-ogc-cite-c
>>> ompliance-testing/
>>> [3] https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/4699
>>>
>>> 2017-06-13 12:50 GMT+02:00 Paolo Cavallini <cavallini at faunalia.it>:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Il 13/06/2017 10:23, Andreas Neumann ha scritto:
>>>>
>>>> > We briefly started discussing the support of the QGIS server
>>>> refactoring.
>>>> >
>>>> > I would now propose that we pay 3Liz (René-Luc D'Hont) the quoted 3k €
>>>> > for the QGIS server enhancement (QgsWXSProjectParser). Refactoring
>>>> work
>>>> > and under-the-hood changes that don't add new features is exactly that
>>>> > kind of work that should be funded from QGIS.ORG <http://QGIS.ORG>
>>>> in my
>>>> > opinion.
>>>>
>>>> Agreed fully
>>>>
>>>> > Can the PSC decide on this, or do we need to ask our voting members?
>>>> Do
>>>> > we start a Loomio voting? I would like a quick decision - time is
>>>> > ticking for QGIS 3 and there is summer break ...
>>>> >
>>>> > For your information, here is the financial situation of QGIS.ORG
>>>> > <http://QGIS.ORG>:
>>>> > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18gwm83ENnIqNk0Hul-Ol
>>>> qggTHU4QeTqA-DvPmX8kK88/edit#gid=0
>>>> > <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18gwm83ENnIqNk0Hul-O
>>>> lqggTHU4QeTqA-DvPmX8kK88/edit#gid=0>
>>>> > with our actual expenses and income.
>>>> >
>>>> > I expect an addition 15k of income during June (sponsorings, PayPal,
>>>> > contributions to Essen HF from FOSSGIS e.V. and QGIS-DE). On the
>>>> > expenses side I expect invoices for 2.18 bug fixing at around 15k. The
>>>> > Essen HF is almost fully covered by payments from FOSSGIS e.V. and
>>>> > QGIS-DE. So we are financially in a good shape to fund additional work
>>>> > around QGIS server.
>>>>
>>>> thanks for the update, quite reassuring
>>>>
>>>> > In addition, we should ask QGIS server devs (3Liz, Oslandia,
>>>> Camptocamp,
>>>> > Sourcepole) what other server work is pending to get it in a good
>>>> state.
>>>>
>>>> agreed, it will be good to have a clear picture of what is missing, and
>>>> the eventual stubling blocks
>>>>
>>>> thanks again
>>>> --
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