[Qgis-psc] Supporting QGIS Server development

Tue Jun 27 13:22:00 PDT 2017

Thanks so much for preparing the proposal Andreas - I have posted it to
loomio with a 7 day vote window.

Regards

Tim

On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 6:59 PM, Andreas Neumann <a.neumann at carto.net>
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Ok - here is my proposal of wording for the Loomio vote.
>
> -------------
>
> During the work of QGIS 3.0 not only the Desktop and core code base
> received a lot of refactoring and API improvements, but also the server
> part. QGIS server is quite popular among users, due to the ease of use
> regarding configuration of symbology, feature information
>
> and print layouts. Users also like the fact that the rendering between
> QGIS Desktop and QGIS server is identical. From version to version it grew
> more powerful and extensible, due to Python plugin extensions. However, the
> code base grew more and more complex, partially due to technical
> restrictions in the 2.x API when the majority of the QGIS server code base
> was written. However, while a lot of work already went into refactoring of
> the QGIS server code base, implemented by french and swiss companies 3Liz,
> Oslandia and Camptocamp, the work is not close to being finished. Financial
> support from QGIS.ORG would help developers to dedicate more time and
> help finish the refactoring and de-coupling between core and GUI, and
> rewriting essential parts of QGIS Server. In addition, effort would go into
> making sure that QGIS server is OGC compliant.
>
> Fortunately, the financial situation of QGIS.ORG allows us to support the
> QGIS server development in addition to our commitments in the QGIS grants
> program and the bug fixing effort.
>
> QGIS voting members are kindly asked to approve dedicating 13 k € towards
> the improvement of the QGIS server code base. 3k € would be dedicated to
> 3Liz and the rewriting of the QGSWxS project file parser. The other 10k €
> would be distributed between the companies 3Liz, Oslandia and Camptocamp,
> according to availability and expertise of their developers. The three
> companies should use the available funds to ensure the best possible
> outcome for the QGIS server community. Upcoming work includes:
>
> - Finishing refactoring of GetPrint command
>
> - Finishing refactoring of GetLegendGraphics command
> - Refactoring of GetFeatureInfo
>
> - Refactoring of DXF output in the GetMap command
>
> - Ensure and Increase OGC compliance and performance
>
> ------------------
>
> Tim - can you please set up Loomio voting and use the above text - feel
> free to improve upon it.
>
> Thanks to all,
>
> Andreas
>
> On 23.06.2017 20:22, Tim Sutton wrote:
>
> Hi Andreas
>
> If the amounts will probably be above and beyond our discretionary spend
> budget, we should just call for a loomio vote to keep things transparent.
> If it is within a budget allocation then please just move forward and do
> it. If we need to go the loomio route, I think we can do it with a 1 week
> time frame. Can you provide me with the wording for the proposal and I will
> post it?
>
> Regards
>
> Tim
>
> On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 5:57 PM, Andreas Neumann <andreas at qgis.org> wrote:
>
>> HI all,
>>
>> So I wonder how we can proceed here. Some agree, there is noone that
>> disagrees but no decision?
>>
>> How can we proceed? Do we need a Loomio vote from voting members or is a
>> PSC decision enough?
>>
>> It seems like all agree about the 3k contribution for the WXS parser
>> removal project from 3Liz, but how about the other plans from Oslandia? Do
>> we need more information about these additional projects?
>>
>> Tim - I am specifically asking you for a decision on the way forward -
>> otherwise we will still discuss the same issues in 2-3 weeks from now and
>> QGIS 3 will be released without a proper rewrite of QGIS server.
>>
>> If we can set a transparent decision process we can use the same process
>> for other similar projects (in or outside of the QGIS grants process).
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Andreas
>>
>> On 20 June 2017 at 22:47, Tim Sutton <tim at qgis.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> +1 from me to support the refactoring work with 3k EUROS.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 5:32 PM, Régis Haubourg <
>>> regis.haubourg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> that is very good news that we find some QGIS.org funds to support some
>>>> low level tasks that remain really hard to fund otherwise.
>>>> 3liz truely deserve this support since they put huge efforts in QGIS
>>>> server refactoring, thanks again to them for that. Thanks Andreas for
>>>> pushing this topic again.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Following the status update on qgis server refactoring made here [0],
>>>> here another update:
>>>>
>>>> - we finally have our new website and published two web articles on
>>>> QGIS server security stress tests [1] and OGC compliancy testing framework
>>>> [2]
>>>>
>>>> - Paul finished GetLegend graphics refactor [3]
>>>>
>>>> - René Luc finished GetCapabilities /  GetContext / DescribeLayer / GetStyles
>>>> (GetStyle)
>>>>
>>>> So now, mandatory actions pending now, René-Luc, Yves, please correct
>>>> me and tell us how much you need  :
>>>>
>>>> - Richard, we got distracted by some mail routing troubles, did you
>>>> have Paul's mail for finding a way to push the OGC html reports to test.
>>>> qgis.org ?
>>>>
>>>> -  GetPrint todo by Oslandia.  ~ at least 5000 euros but composer
>>>> rework can change it all.
>>>>
>>>> -  GetFeatureInfo, DXFWriter by 3Liz
>>>> - Testing by Real Users before during feature freeze :)
>>>>
>>>> - Try to reach a 100 % OGC compliancy by fixing issues or disabling
>>>> some very edge cases. We are currently limited by TeamEgine tool crashes.
>>>> Paul is hot on doing the job, but we'll need funding. I would start asking
>>>> to something like 5000 euros and see what we can do with it.
>>>>
>>>> I can't evaluate the other tasks like pushing the performance benchmark
>>>> framework and define the reference test set in it.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Régis
>>>>
>>>> [0] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/qgis-psc/2017-May/005316.html
>>>> [1] http://oslandia.com/en/2017/06/14/qgis-server-security-aspect/
>>>> [2] http://oslandia.com/en/2017/06/16/qgis-server-ogc-cite-c
>>>> ompliance-testing/
>>>> [3] https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/4699
>>>>
>>>> 2017-06-13 12:50 GMT+02:00 Paolo Cavallini <cavallini at faunalia.it>:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Il 13/06/2017 10:23, Andreas Neumann ha scritto:
>>>>>
>>>>> > We briefly started discussing the support of the QGIS server
>>>>> refactoring.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I would now propose that we pay 3Liz (René-Luc D'Hont) the quoted 3k
>>>>> €
>>>>> > for the QGIS server enhancement (QgsWXSProjectParser). Refactoring
>>>>> work
>>>>> > and under-the-hood changes that don't add new features is exactly
>>>>> that
>>>>> > kind of work that should be funded from QGIS.ORG <http://QGIS.ORG>
>>>>> in my
>>>>> > opinion.
>>>>>
>>>>> Agreed fully
>>>>>
>>>>> > Can the PSC decide on this, or do we need to ask our voting members?
>>>>> Do
>>>>> > we start a Loomio voting? I would like a quick decision - time is
>>>>> > ticking for QGIS 3 and there is summer break ...
>>>>> >
>>>>> > For your information, here is the financial situation of QGIS.ORG
>>>>> > <http://QGIS.ORG>:
>>>>> > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18gwm83ENnIqNk0Hul-Ol
>>>>> qggTHU4QeTqA-DvPmX8kK88/edit#gid=0
>>>>> > <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18gwm83ENnIqNk0Hul-O
>>>>> lqggTHU4QeTqA-DvPmX8kK88/edit#gid=0>
>>>>> > with our actual expenses and income.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I expect an addition 15k of income during June (sponsorings, PayPal,
>>>>> > contributions to Essen HF from FOSSGIS e.V. and QGIS-DE). On the
>>>>> > expenses side I expect invoices for 2.18 bug fixing at around 15k.
>>>>> The
>>>>> > Essen HF is almost fully covered by payments from FOSSGIS e.V. and
>>>>> > QGIS-DE. So we are financially in a good shape to fund additional
>>>>> work
>>>>> > around QGIS server.
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks for the update, quite reassuring
>>>>>
>>>>> > In addition, we should ask QGIS server devs (3Liz, Oslandia,
>>>>> Camptocamp,
>>>>> > Sourcepole) what other server work is pending to get it in a good
>>>>> state.
>>>>>
>>>>> agreed, it will be good to have a clear picture of what is missing, and
>>>>> the eventual stubling blocks
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks again
>>>>> --
>>>>> Paolo Cavallini - www.faunalia.eu
>>>>> QGIS & PostGIS courses: http://www.faunalia.eu/training.html
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>> Andreas Neumann
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