[Qgis-psc] Suggesting a rule for travel refunds at Zanzibar meeting

[Tim Sutton]

Hi


In addition to Richard’s great comments below, why not require funded persons to write a summary of their activities for the QGIS blog? That way we can get a nice report back of activities….

Regards

Tim

> On 07 Jul 2018, at 14:43, Richard Duivenvoorde <rdmailings at duif.net> wrote:
> 
> On 07/07/2018 10:19 AM, Andreas Neumann wrote:
>> Dear PSC members,
>> 
>> As people fill in their requests for travel support - see
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FkqjzjRWlnTS2AVxSpJM-UtkRafPYUqQOMlvjlzkzlY/edit#gid=1896805420
>> 
>> 
>> I have the following suggestion for people who visit both the Zanzibar
>> dev meeting and the FOSS4G:
>> 
>>  * QGIS.ORG <http://QGIS.ORG> would only pay half of the airfare, as
>>    that person also goes to FOSS4G
>>  * QGIS.ORG <http://QGIS.ORG> would pay the accommodation costs in
>>    Zanzibar during the meeting and potentially the ferry back to Dar
>>  * QGIS.ORG <http://QGIS.ORG> would certainly pay for the local food
>>    expenses in Zanzibar at the meeting, as usually
>> 
>> 
>> Would you agree with this proposal?
> 
> I kind of agree with this. By paying half of your trip/accomodation
> yourself, you also show you are eager to come.
> 
> There is the argument about being friendly and inviting to new people,
> but I think we just do not have the funding to be THAT inviting. I also
> don't think it is fair to people who are able to or just pay there own fare.
> 
> I also tend to be a little more strict to people for who we fund:
> 
> We have funded people earlier which came to socialize: a good thing!
> We funded people who then worked on their own plugins: nice!
> We funded people we never seen/spoke to earlier: good!
> 
> But sponsoring coming in at 10 euro per sponsor, funding a new comer for
> 1500 euro, that is a lot of sponsors...
> 
> I think we should get some effort back from people who are funded.
> Mostly we know the people, but even then, in my view we should ask back
> something in return.
> Is it wrong to ask for people to 'fight their selves in' a little? By
> either (before(!) asking for funding) show us they are
> QGIS/community-minded, so fixed some issues, wrote something, or did
> other (non paid) community work?
> 
> And even if you did not do such things... Please(!) still come to the
> hackfests: they are fun!!!!
> 
> But in my view we should not fund rookies (unless they did some homework
> beforehand).
> 
> It should be clear to people, there is no free-ride: first make yourself
> useful before asking for (sponsor) money.
> 
> And off course every 'rule' should have it's exceptions :-)
> 
> I think as PSC we also talked about that: if somebody has 'references'
> or 'recommendations' from somebody else from the community, Andreas/psc
> should be able to fund such people.
> And for people we know that they do A LOT of community work, PSC should
> be able to fully refund them (talking about you ....).
> And as our finances are pretty transparent: let people have a look at
> our 'books' and let PSC know if you thing we fund too much OR too little!
> 
> Last @Andreas: thanks for doing this 'dirty' work!
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Richard Duivenvoorde
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Tim Sutton
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