[Qgis-psc] again about the bug tracker

[Tim Sutton]

Hi

Another way to summarise the discussion from Madeira was:

   "Before any migration happens, someone should make a clear plan that covers all the benefits, process etc. and share it on the wiki / QEP for review. "


So IMHO a good way forward to would be to let Vincent and friends apply for some funding to manage the QEP process and develop the specification of what needs to be done.

After the review period of the QEP we could put the QEP approval out for a general community vote.

If the outcome is ‘Remain’ then we can put the issue to bed for the next 5 years. If it is ‘Brexit’ / ‘Redminexit’ then  PSC budget could allocate funds for the actual migration.

Regards

Tim


> On 28 Oct 2018, at 09:15, Paolo Cavallini <cavallini at faunalia.it> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> Il 10/24/2018 11:15 AM, Jürgen E. Fischer ha scritto:
>> Hi Denis,
>> 
>> On Thu, 11. Oct 2018 at 13:06:00 -0400, Denis Rouzaud wrote:
>>> Well to me the end goal in this project is *getting a new bug tracker* not
>>> *migrating to a complete open-source solution*. That's maybe that's the
>>> root of our difference in point of view.
>> To me the goal would be to "get a better bug tracker".  And IMHO it still
>> hasn't been demonstrated that other bug trackers are not only different, but
>> better.  So much better that it's worth the migration.
>> 
>> github's bugtracker's big advantage would be that it's better integrated to the
>> rest of github we currently use.  But that's probably just because there's no
>> option to integrate anything else on github - and we can't do anything about
>> that (because it's not free - IMHO this is what is open source's top strength -
>> not philosophy).
>> 
>> I'm not convinced that it's better otherwise (but I also wasn't when we
>> switched from trac either - not sure if that was a worthwhile step, except
>> for the control we gained by doing so).
>> 
>> If github's bugtracker isn't better, we'd also have to move the rest to get
>> something better integrated (or just add the missing link to redmine).  Anyhow
>> that would make the task of migration even bigger.  That's where gitlab may
>> come in.
>> 
>> Bottom line we don't have a consensus how to move forward and getting everyone
>> aboard would required setting it up upfront.  But nobody is sure everyone or at
>> least a majority will like that better and so all the work might in the end
>> just turn out to be something that we don't want.
>> 
>> 
>> BTW the mail probem was not related to redmine at all - just to gmail becoming
>> more picky about senders (if this was actually a new problem) & the missing SPF
>> record in qgis' DNS.  The mail notification about something I just changed is
>> usually the next mail in my folder to the one that led to the change - so it's
>> instantly there.
>> 
>> 
> 
> thanks Juergen for resuming the situation. This has become such a long
> standing, contentious, and sometime emotional issue that your rational
> approach is much needed.
> So, the crucial issue: why exactly a move is necessary? Could proponent
> of the solution resume the advantages of their preferred solution?
> I know this has been written over and over, but let's try to put all
> pieces together once more.
> Thanks.
> 
> -- 
> Paolo Cavallini - www.faunalia.eu <http://www.faunalia.eu/>
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