[Qgis-psc] Discussion our financial situation

[Matthias Kuhn]

Hi Andreas,

It would certainly be an option. And there are others as well (like good 
old Jenkins for example).

Are you asking for self-hosted because of performance or for other 
reasons? I think in the past there was a shift towards outsourcing such 
things to external services that do this as their core business instead 
of having to manage infrastructure on our own (e.g. github, travis).

As mentioned before, I think someone will need to invest some real time 
to exploring possibilities and limitations to be able to come forward 
with a good plan of action. I think it would be good to have a week of 
time to test different options.

Matthias

On 11/14/19 9:28 AM, Andreas Neumann wrote:
>
> Hi Matthias,
>
> Would it be an option to "self-host" appveyor at our own (to be 
> ordered) Hetzner Windows machine?
>
> I see that Appveyor offers a self-hosted version, free for one team 
> and with only community support: https://www.appveyor.com/self-hosted/
>
> Andreas
>
> On 2019-11-14 09:22, Matthias Kuhn wrote:
>
>> Hi Andreas,
>>
>> Yes, I remember this. I also invested some time into AppVeyor back 
>> then and the timeouts.
>>
>> Finding a reliable solution and exploring possibilities will be an 
>> investment in itself already. I think that with a good financial 
>> situation, it's also a good possibility for the project to invest 
>> into such an area with a potentially great benefit. But it's 
>> ultimately the PSC's decision if the project prefers to sponsor this 
>> work or hope for it to happen and outsource the work and risks.
>>
>> Matthias
>>
>> On 11/14/19 8:59 AM, Andreas Neumann wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> The Windows CI thing would be worth-wile to invest it. But I think 
>>> we already had it in the past and because of a lot of problems (e.g. 
>>> timeouts when building, etc.) we stopped using it. I know that we 
>>> definitely paid for such a service in the past. It was called 
>>> "Appveyor" back then. Nyall might know more about it. I think he 
>>> paid for it upfront and then I reimbursed him. That was in 2016.
>>>
>>> I think we would first have to find a reliable solution for Windows 
>>> CI before investing into it.
>>>
>>> Andreas
>>>
>>> On 2019-11-14 08:51, Anita Graser wrote:
>>>
>>>     Hi Andreas,
>>>
>>>     On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 9:57 PM Andreas Neumann
>>>     <a.neumann at carto.net <mailto:a.neumann at carto.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>>         Any ideas? Do we have useful and important work that could
>>>         be finished
>>>         until January for around 15k?
>>>
>>>         Should we invest more QGIS bug fixing? Documentation (if we
>>>         find one)?
>>>         Our infrastructure? Or upstream qt5 improvements?
>>>
>>>     On the infrastructure side, there seems to be interest in
>>>     Windows based CI. See current thread on [Qgis-psc] Direct push
>>>     forbidden to master. However, I'm not 100% sure how this relates
>>>     to a previous discussion from 2018 in the
>>>     thread [QGIS-Developer] Windows compilation infrastructure.
>>>     Regards,
>>>     Anita
>>>
>>>
>>>
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