[Qgis-psc] On using Nextcloud for editing documents

Marco Bernasocchi marco at qgis.org
Tue Apr 14 03:03:35 PDT 2020


Hi Paolo, thanks for looking into this,

I don't think we need odt for text files and md could do it, as you say
text files do also have merits.

We do need sheets, so not sure how would we go on there?

Ciao

Marco

On 14.04.20 11:46, Paolo Cavallini wrote:
> Hi all,
> please refer to the ticket:
> https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/2243
> Apparently onlyoffice is faster and more reliable than collabora. Do we
> really need LibreOffice documents? Markdown should be enough in most if
> not all cases, and I'd expect editing to be much faster with md than
> odt. Furthermore, plain text files have their merits over compressed xml.
> Cheers.
>
> Il 14/04/20 07:53, Matthias Kuhn ha scritto:
>> Hi Marco,
>>
>> Did you try collabora or onlyoffice? The first one is completely
>> processed on the server and therefore very prone to lagging while the
>> second one is a client (browser) implementation.
>>
>> Matthias
>>
>> On 4/13/20 8:54 PM, Marco Bernasocchi wrote:
>>> hi Matthias, thanks for clarifing.
>>>  I forgot to mention that since the experience I just had on the OSGeo
>>> NC were unfortunately very similar to what we had back then :(
>>>
>>> cheers Marco
>>>
>>> On Mon, 13 Apr 2020, 18:31 Matthias Kuhn, <matthias at opengis.ch
>>> <mailto:matthias at opengis.ch>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Hi
>>>
>>>     On 4/13/20 5:25 PM, Marco Bernasocchi wrote:
>>>     > Ha Andreas
>>>     >
>>>     > On 12.04.20 10:39, Andreas Neumann wrote:
>>>     >> Hi,
>>>     >>
>>>     >> I tested editing the "environmental policy" draft on Nextcloud in
>>>     >> order to get a better feeling about the usability. I think
>>>     >> functionality wise it would probably ok for our needs, but the
>>>     lagging
>>>     >> is really, really disturbing and I agree with Tim that hurts
>>>     >> productivity substantially.
>>>     > We have a professionally hosted Nextcloud instance in
>>>     Switzerland, when
>>>     > we tested the collaborative in realtime with multiple people editing
>>>     > together, we continuously hit issues like the one you mention and
>>>     > decided not to use it as it was more frustrating than anything else.
>>>     >
>>>     > We now ose nextclout for storing our file and have them syncronised
>>>     > across the company (which works okisch) and use google docs for
>>>     working
>>>     > together on larger documents.
>>>
>>>     I have to add that these tests were performed more than a year ago
>>>     and I
>>>     have repeatedly heard that nextcloud has undertaken a lot on the
>>>     collaborative editing front.
>>>
>>>     Don't take this as a statement that it _is_ better now, but that the
>>>     findings Marco is referring to here _might_ reflect a state which
>>>     is no
>>>     longer accurate.
>>>
>>>     Matthias
>>>
>>>
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