[Qgis-psc] Grants 2020 preparation for voting

Lene Fischer lfi at ign.ku.dk
Mon Jul 6 08:56:36 PDT 2020 

Hi Andreas,
All the proposed projects was in total 45.400 €, so it was 5.400 in difference. This difference is of course not a ‘small’ amount – but still affordable. In the light of this special year – with no conferences ect.,there must be money in the budget from these event to cover another work – I know you are not supposed to juggle with the budget and money, but this is in favor for us all. Just a thought…
Kind regards
Lene
From: Andreas Neumann <andreas at qgis.org>
Sent: 6. juli 2020 17:48
To: Lene Fischer <lfi at ign.ku.dk>
Cc: Matthias Kuhn <matthias at opengis.ch>; QGIS PSC List <qgis-psc at lists.osgeo.org>
Subject: Re: [Qgis-psc] Grants 2020 preparation for voting


Hi Lene,

Each voting member had six votes and could vote for six out of the eight proposals. At the end the proposals with most accumulated votes won. As opposed to the last time, there is no "weighting" of the proposals this time.

Can you clarify what you meant with "only a smaller amount could be chosen"?

If we would allow all the proposals to be voted for (e.g. 8 out of 8) the voting would not help PSC with the decision which of the proposals should be accepted and which not.

Greetings,

Andreas

On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 17:36, Lene Fischer <lfi at ign.ku.dk<mailto:lfi at ign.ku.dk>> wrote:
Hi,
When we were voting, it came as a surprise there was a limitation in number of votes. Only a ‘smaller’ amount and all could be chosen.
Is there a reason for limitation in the number of votes ?

Regards
Lene

Lene Fischer
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Forest and Landscape College
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Sent: 6. juli 2020 17:30
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Subject: Re: [Qgis-psc] Grants 2020 preparation for voting

Hi Matthias,

Tomorrow evening is a PSC meeting. I think we should discuss at the meeting what to do with the two proposals that couldn't make it.

I wouldn't interpret the grant proposal voting as being "against" your proposal. With these relatively few voting members one vote plus or minus makes a difference and sometimes it is only a tiny bit of luck or not. This has nothing to do with the quality of the proposal.

I think neither of the proposals is "sexy" to the end users. And the  rules of the grant process made sure that "sexy" projects (new features and such) were not eligible for the grant process. We  should also not blame the voting members for the outcome - it is just a matter of fact that one or two of the proposals couldn't make it. I wish we had more funds than we had grant proposals ...

It is also clear that certain proposals that only target a "minority" of QGIS  users (such as MacOS, Linux users or QGIS server users) often have a tough time getting enough votes.

Greetings,
Andreas

On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 16:15, Matthias Kuhn <matthias at opengis.ch<mailto:matthias at opengis.ch>> wrote:

Hi Anita, all

Congratulations to all the winning proposals, we have some very good projects confirmed. Also thanks a lot for running the grant proposal process perfectly smooth.

Also thanks to all the voting members for taking the time to read up on the proposals and participate in the democratic process.



We have noticed that the settings registry was again not prioritized. We are unsure, what exactly the reason was. The other proposals were very high quality indeed. Maybe it was not deemed important enough, maybe the conclusion was that it would be easy to find external sponsors or maybe it was not presented or titled "sexy" enough.



Whatever it may have been, we are convinced that it would be very good for the QGIS codebase, plugin ecosystem and users. It will

 - reduce the risk for wrong usage of settings (recent bug e.g. [1])

 - make it easier for plugin developers to properly use settings

 - add semantics to settings, it opens up the way to generate a UI for settings (the same way it's already possible to generate UIs for processing parameters)



To provide this leap forward with respect to settings management, OPENGIS.ch would like to jump in and sponsor the missing 2.4K € to implement this proposal.



If you would like to follow up on this, please let me know.

Thank you very much

Matthias



[1] https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/37520/files#diff-45bc9c8c414931bca4589d3b221f119dL543<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fqgis%2FQGIS%2Fpull%2F37520%2Ffiles%23diff-45bc9c8c414931bca4589d3b221f119dL543&data=02%7C01%7Clfi%40ign.ku.dk%7Cc10c1547e9de4925b88608d821c3eb9a%7Ca3927f91cda14696af898c9f1ceffa91%7C0%7C0%7C637296472643333091&sdata=IEOJV%2BdMD9%2BjgrOMRbz6jcjpvKnahjns5TgYjqPbV88%3D&reserved=0>


On 7/5/20 4:57 PM, Anita Graser wrote:
The voting period is now over. I've closed the form and counted the votes. You find the preliminary results at:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10MAeENptW-gi8spkmR_jn0Y-_9iYakR7wtV5XdSZZ1o/edit?usp=sharing<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fspreadsheets%2Fd%2F10MAeENptW-gi8spkmR_jn0Y-_9iYakR7wtV5XdSZZ1o%2Fedit%3Fusp%3Dsharing&data=02%7C01%7Clfi%40ign.ku.dk%7Cc10c1547e9de4925b88608d821c3eb9a%7Ca3927f91cda14696af898c9f1ceffa91%7C0%7C0%7C637296472643343081&sdata=MvyZFihJnoXfwEAp4t%2F0VJfeR8mZa4FHlRAVKFvTQEk%3D&reserved=0>

As it stands now, the 8 top-ranked proposals can be funded within the 40k grant budget.

Could I ask you to please cross-check the results before we announce them.

Regards,
Anita


Gesendet: Samstag, 20. Juni 2020 um 16:18 Uhr
Von: "Anita Graser" <anitagraser at gmx.at><mailto:anitagraser at gmx.at>

The call for voting has been sent out now. The deadline is on Sunday, July 5th 2020.

Please get in touch if you are a voting member and haven't received the invitation.

Regards,

Anita


On 19.06.2020 18:01, Marco Bernasocchi wrote:

Thanks a lot Denis and  Anita for the great work!

Cheers

Marco
On 19.06.20 16:34, Andreas Neumann wrote:

Hi,

I agree - thanks a lot for your work, Denis!

It helps to get a good summary and present it a bit better.

Andreas

On 2020-06-19 16:24, Anita Graser wrote:

Thank you Denis!

I think this is an excellent overview of the proposals.

My goal is to send the call for voting out tomorrow evening if there are no arguments against it.

Regards,

Anita


On 19.06.2020 13:48, Denis Rouzaud wrote:
Hi Anita,

Here is a first draft of a one page summary of the grants to be voted on.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aiolvIpEGhBZ-iLhZl7cbUP1gPQx1-W83ecijpzNi4o/edit?usp=sharing<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1aiolvIpEGhBZ-iLhZl7cbUP1gPQx1-W83ecijpzNi4o%2Fedit%3Fusp%3Dsharing&data=02%7C01%7Clfi%40ign.ku.dk%7Cc10c1547e9de4925b88608d821c3eb9a%7Ca3927f91cda14696af898c9f1ceffa91%7C0%7C0%7C637296472643343081&sdata=z73c9gWGtVESJClfRGZKfrBQDThjz83ng%2B2e%2FFFaPjM%3D&reserved=0>

It's quite tricky to report the discussion without looking too negative. I hope this is neutral enough. I am totally open to suggestions, obviously.

Let me know what you think,
Denis

Le lun. 15 juin 2020 à 19:50, Anita Graser <anitagraser at gmx.at<mailto:anitagraser at gmx.at>> a écrit :

Thank you Denis!

We need the summaries as soon as possible. According to our timeline, we wanted to publish the voting results at the end of June (after a two week voting period):

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CNmSJxztrHrqLfillDH8v1zWaMzxFUyYSPT3sut55eQ/edit?usp=sharing<https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1CNmSJxztrHrqLfillDH8v1zWaMzxFUyYSPT3sut55eQ%2Fedit%3Fusp%3Dsharing&data=02%7C01%7Clfi%40ign.ku.dk%7Cc10c1547e9de4925b88608d821c3eb9a%7Ca3927f91cda14696af898c9f1ceffa91%7C0%7C0%7C637296472643353073&sdata=KmPjI97vWeZ9swjE5cJ9E9da2yIa5cYo59PZgMNZ8Ro%3D&reserved=0>

If you can manage to write the summaries by Sunday 21st, we can start the voting and have the results ready around July 6th.

Regards,

Anita


On Mon, 15 Jun 2020, 19:14 Denis Rouzaud, <denis.rouzaud at gmail.com<mailto:denis.rouzaud at gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi,

I can give a hand for this. I can compile the summaries and comments.
When is it due?

Denis

On Mon, 15 Jun 2020, 19:04 Anita Graser, <anitagraser at gmx.at<mailto:anitagraser at gmx.at>> wrote:
Hi,

Do we have any volunteer for compiling the proposal and discussion
summaries?

If nobody is available to take care of this step - we have to decide if
we feel comfortable to go ahead with the voting without the summaries.

Regards,

Anita


On 13.06.2020 21:06, Anita Graser wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Since the QEP discussion period is over now, we need to take the next
> steps:
>
> According to our new process (discussed in
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> @Paolo are you still available to take care of this?
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