[Qgis-psc] AGM - processing the voting results

Mon May 4 08:10:51 PDT 2020

Can I suggest we ask Lene and Ismail to do the voting review? Or more broadly call for volunteers? I don’t want to make things too cumbersome…so maybe just directly asking two people would be good?

Regards

Tim

> On 4 May 2020, at 14:57, Andreas Neumann <a.neumann at carto.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Thanks for the clarifications. Yes, we need to stick to the charter for our voting procedure. If we think the procedure needs to be improved, we first have to fix the charter accordingly.
> 
> Glad, things are clear now.
> 
> Andreas
> 
> Am 04.05.20 um 15:48 schrieb Tim Sutton:
>> Hi All
>> 
>> 
>> In the 2017 AGM we added the weighted clause to section 8.1 of our statutes and it was subsequently approved in the AGM. See the Loomio vote:
>> 
>> https://www.loomio.org/d/aI6mYo1n/updates-to-the-statutes-for-trade-registry <https://www.loomio.org/d/aI6mYo1n/updates-to-the-statutes-for-trade-registry>
>> 
>> If I recall correctly the weighted scoring system was added at the request of community members who felt that weighted scoring was fairer.
>> 
>> We have double checked the AGM 2018 election results using the weighted scoring system and the outcome as acted upon was correct (there is no difference in the result regardless of whether you use a weighted or non-weighted scoring system).
>> 
>> In 2019 there was no election.
>> 
>> For 2020 I suggest we stick to the charter for this election so that everything is clear.
>> 
>> For the next AGM I propose that we take on comments about how to improve the election process so that it is clear and transparent while addressing as many of the various concerns raised as possible. 
>> 
>> Before we publish the results for 2020 (calculated according to our current statutes) can I suggest we ask two trusted community members to review the calculations to ensure that everything looks fine.
>> 
>> One additional recommendation (which will make the AGM process a little more tedious), is to split the PSC and the board vote so that we first simply elect the PSC, and then in a follow up election, the PSC elects the board.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Tim
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 4 May 2020, at 13:44, Andreas Neumann <a.neumann at carto.net <mailto:a.neumann at carto.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi again,
>>> 
>>> Ok - now I see where you got the formula from (section 8.1 in the charter).
>>> 
>>> But I think that formula is totally broken, esp. if you count the chair, vice-chair and treasurer as being part of the PSC. Technically, yes, they are part of PSC, but I think the text in 8.1 in the charter only deals with PSC-only candidates, and thus excluding the board (at least this is my interpretation ;-) ). But then the question arises, how votes in the board section should really be weighted. Why did we come up with this stupid ranking idea?
>>> 
>>> The other problem: in the voting form we didn't clearly communicate that the PSC-only positions are actually ranked.
>>> 
>>> Hm - things get a bit complicated ...
>>> 
>>> Andreas
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Again, I agree with you, I just did what the charter says:
>>>> 
>>>> "QGIS Voting Members shall be allowed a number of votes equal to the
>>>> number of PSC memberships up for election and shall be asked to rank
>>>> their votes in order of preference. The votes shall be weighted based on
>>>> the number of PSC positions being voted for." [2]
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers
>>>> 
>>>> Marco
>>>> 
>>>> [1]
>>>> https://qgis.org/en/site/getinvolved/governance/charter.html#election-of-board-members <https://qgis.org/en/site/getinvolved/governance/charter.html#election-of-board-members>
>>>> [2]
>>>> https://qgis.org/en/site/getinvolved/governance/charter.html#election-of-psc-members <https://qgis.org/en/site/getinvolved/governance/charter.html#election-of-psc-members>
>>>> 
>>>>> Andreas
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Am 04.05.20 um 12:34 schrieb Marco Bernasocchi:
>>>>>> Hi Andreas,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I already had done all the works you mentions in the second and third
>>>>>> page of the result sheet in the AGM2020 folder
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Since all is calculated automatically from the votes I could prepare it
>>>>>> before the deadline.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It would be great/mandatory to have more eyes going over it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Marco
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 04.05.20 11:46, Andreas Neumann wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I wonder who will be in charge with doing the processing of the voting
>>>>>>> results:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> - make sure that only voting members voted
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> - apply our logic/formula for getting the results for PSC.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Perhaps we need a "neutral"  person here - maybe Tim - would you be
>>>>>>> available?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks and greetings,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Andreas
>>>>>>> 
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