[Qgis-psc] QGIS server certified for OGC API for features

Fri Oct 23 13:07:36 PDT 2020

thanks  a lot Régis! I fear there will be no much outcome. obviously being
certified is good, but the question is if it is worth the effort

cheers

On Fri, 23 Oct 2020, 18:12 Alessandro Pasotti, <apasotti at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Régis,
>
> Thank you so much for taking care of this!
>
> Cheers
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 6:10 PM Régis Haubourg <regis.haubourg at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > FYI, I did put some pressure on the OGC and raised the issue in the
> OSGeo Discuss mailing list to see if we can find a global solution there
> >
> > Bye'
> > Régis
> >
> > Le ven. 23 oct. 2020 à 16:49, Andreas Neumann <andreas at qgis.org> a
> écrit :
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I also think that we should ask them to give either a substantial
> discount (because we are an OS project) or we cancel our certification.
> >>
> >> This year we can pay the invoice. Please tell them to update the
> address to:
> >>
> >> QGIS.ORG
> >> Boeschacherstrase 10A
> >> 8624 Gruet (Gossau ZH)
> >> Switzerland
> >>
> >> Note that I replaced the german Umlauts. Most likely, if it is is a US
> based entity, they are not capable of handling foreign characters ...
> >>
> >> What is the rest of the PSC thinking about OGC certification?
> >>
> >> Greetings,
> >> Andreas
> >>
> >> On Fri, 23 Oct 2020 at 15:14, Alessandro Pasotti <apasotti at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 2:25 PM Régis Haubourg <
> regis.haubourg at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Hi all,
> >>> > any reaction here?
> >>> > At least Andreas, can I go further with the billing or should I
> fight a bit more with the OGC ?
> >>>
> >>> Hi Régis,
> >>>
> >>> It looks like wasted time fighting bureaucrats.
> >>>
> >>> I say we pay now and never again.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>> > regards
> >>> > Régis
> >>> >
> >>> > Le jeu. 22 oct. 2020 à 15:09, Régis Haubourg <
> regis.haubourg at gmail.com> a écrit :
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Okay,
> >>> >> so the bad news is that OGC seems to have stricter rules than
> before. See the response below.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> We are now submitted to fees, which are 300 euros per certification
> submission.
> >>> >> Currently we have 2 services only, for the server, WMS 1.3 and
> OGCAPI, so this is 600 euros per year.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I suppose we will have to pay for this one, since the job is done.
> I'll ask them to emit a correct invoice with QGIS.org information and
> adress.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> This opens a question for our certification strategy:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Up to now it only involved some volunteer time. Now it would also
> involve finances.
> >>> >> In my thoughts, the ideal situation was to certify all the
> supported services, either on server and client side.
> >>> >> If we go this way, this will grow very fast to some thousand euros
> each year and a lot of manual work. This seems overkill to me when thinking
> of the benefits of thess certifications. I never answered any bid requiring
> a certified engine yet - but you might have hit this issue before.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I'm wondering if we shouldn't just ask for certification once per
> service, just to prove QGIS is officially compliant once, and then let our
> nightly testing platforms "prove" we are compliant on the long run.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Instead of a recurrent charge,  this will be a one time charge
> only, when needed, and when we want to make some buzz in this area.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> @Andreas, is this ok for the 300 euros bill, even if this was not
> planned?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> @all any thoughts about our certification strategy?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Best regards
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Régis
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> On 22/10/2020 11:25, Gobe Hobona wrote:
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Hi Régis,
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> We appreciate the work done by the QGIS and OSGeo community in
> supporting OGC standards. Please note however that we are guided by our
> policies, agreed on by the OGC Membership.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Please see Sections 5.5 and 6.3 of the Compliance Testing Policy [
> https://portal.opengeospatial.org/files/?artifact_id=55234].
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> The fee is only waived for:
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> * The first three implementations to pass 100% of the compliance
> procedure, while the test is in beta. We refer to these as Early
> Implementers.
> >>> >>> * The first two Reference Implementations that pass the test
> related to a conformance class within a version of an Implementation
> Standard.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> In this case, the executable test suite of OGC API - Features -
> Part 1: Core is already in production (i.e. it is no longer in beta).
> Please also note that there are already two current Reference
> Implementations of the standard.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> https://www.ogc.org/resource/products/compliant?display_opt=1&specid=1022
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> QGIS Server is therefore not eligible for the fee waiver for
> compliance certification for OGC API - Features - Part 1: Core.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Regards,
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Gobe
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Le jeu. 22 oct. 2020 à 10:23, Régis Haubourg <
> regis.haubourg at gmail.com> a écrit :
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Ouch, in the meantime, I saw they are trying to charge us for this.
> >>> >>> I'm negotiating a free of charge policy, like they did with the
> previous OGC team.
> >>> >>> I'll keep you posted.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Régis
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Le jeu. 22 oct. 2020 à 10:14, Régis Haubourg <
> regis.haubourg at gmail.com> a écrit :
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> Hi all,
> >>> >>>> Thanks to the great work of Paul and Alessandro, I finally
> managed to get QGIS server 3.10 certified for OGC API for Features (aka
> WFS3).
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> The badge is at [0] and I updated the wiki accordingly [1]
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> Next steps for me are :
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> - push a blog post to QGIS.org website
> >>> >>>> - push a news in the QGIS feed (I'm unsure about this, any
> opinion welcome)
> >>> >>>> - update the documentation
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> I am really looking forward to the transactional WFS3
> specification [2], this will be a big win over current WFS-T for our web
> clients \o/
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> Best regards
> >>> >>>> Régis
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> [0] https://www.ogc.org/resource/products/details/?pid=1611
> >>> >>>> [1] https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/wiki/OGC-compliance-for-QGIS
> >>> >>>> [2] http://docs.opengeospatial.org/DRAFTS/20-002.html
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> On 21/10/2020 19:56, Catherine Walline wrote:
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> Hi Régis and Andreas,
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> Thank you for your patience regarding the recent submission for
> OGC compliance for QGIS Server 3.10 with OGC API Features 1.0. It has been
> approved for the period from 21 October 2020 through 3 April 2021, to
> coincide with the existing compliance period. The corresponding prorated
> invoice is attached.
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> We invite you to visit the public website to confirm that the
> listings are displayed as intended:
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> https://www.ogc.org/resource/products/details/?pid=1611
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> We greatly appreciate your participation in OGC compliance.
> Please let me know if there are any questions or concerns.
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> Best wishes,
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> Catherine
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> --
> >>> >>>> Catherine Walline
> >>> >>>> Senior Accountant | Open Geospatial Consortium (OGC)
> >>> >>>> Office: 1-508-655-5858, ext 707
> >>> >>>> cwalline at ogc.org | ogc.org | @opengeospatial
> >>> >>>>
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