[Qgis-psc] Finalizing the budget

Thu Dec 14 16:00:13 PST 2023

Hi Andreas,

Many thanks for putting this together, now I have a better understanding
behind the scenes of the budget. As I said before, I am not against but if
we have this kind of explanation, it would be really helpful.

Thanks again to you and the PSC for managing this.

Best Regards

On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 4:48 AM Andreas Neumann <andreas at qgis.org> wrote:

> Dear Ismail,
>
> Thank you for your questions regarding the 2024 budget proposal. The
> budget has been discussed and decided by the PSC in plenum.
>
> In 2023 we have a significant increase of available funds - and this is
> reflected in the 2024 budget.
>
> Some clarifications about increases or new items in the budget:
>
> *Contributor meetings*:
> The necessary budget for contributor meetings is always really hard to
> estimate. If we don't need all of it, then fine. On the other hand we want
> to enable also contributors from a bit further away to participate at such
> meetings and help them with their travel costs.
>
> *OSMF corporate membership*:
> Apparently QGIS users put a significant load on the OSMF tiling servers
> (several thousand requests per second) and to some extent also on the OSMF
> geocoder infrastructure. They asked us, if we could help them with the
> financing of their infrastructure.
>
> *PR and code reviewing / maintenance of githu*b:
> this has been significantly increased from 14k to 30k - due to demand of
> the core developers who say that code reviewing is a substantial effort for
> them.
>
> *Bug fixing*:
> We also increased (slightly) the budgets for bug fixing, as we regard this
> as one of the most important part of our funding.
>
> *Documentation and System administration*:
> The documentation and sysadmin budgets have been increased because we
> started in 2023 to have 2 dedicated people working on these two domains.
> Because 2024 is the first full year for both of them, the budget had to be
> increased.
>
> There are also decreases in the budget:
>
> *Packaging*
> There is a decrease from 32k to 20k, because in 2023, there was a one time
> 12k extra effort for Mac packaging.
>
> *Qt6 migration*
> There is a decrease compared to 2023, because the bulk of the efforts
> could be financed from the 2023 budget (hopefully)
>
> Finally, there is the "*grant budget*":
> Here we set aside 30k as a start and said if there would be an increase in
> income compared to 2023, that we would dedicate additionals funds towards
> the grants budget.
>
> Hope this clarifies our reasoning?
>
> If you have additional questions, please don't hesitate to ask.
>
> Best greetings,
> Andreas
>
> On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 at 15:15, Ismail Sunni <imajimatika at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Andreas and PSC,
>>
>> Thanks for managing this budgeting stuff.
>>
>> I saw in the spreadsheet, that there are some significant increases (e.g.
>> 2x for contributor meetings) or some new expenses (e.g. sponsoring OSMF). I
>> am not against the budget at all, for me it's understandable. But will
>> there be any more detailed remarks when we do the voting? Just in case
>> someone asks so that I can give the official answer (and not based on my
>> own opinion).
>>
>> Thanks :)
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 7:46 PM Andreas Neumann via QGIS-PSC <
>> qgis-psc at lists.osgeo.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Thank  you both Ale and Régis for your feedback.
>>>
>>> As suggested from Ale, I moved 10k € from the Qt6 migration to the code
>>> reviewing.
>>>
>>> We can still try to come up with more formal ways and/or ideas on how to
>>> distribute the 30k € among the active core contributors who want and can
>>> contribute to the code reviewing.
>>>
>>> Régis already has formulated some thoughts on the reviewing. We can
>>> discuss this at the next PSC meeting.
>>>
>>> Marco: can you please put up the budget proposal for voting among the
>>> voting members - so that we can have an accepted budget when starting into
>>> 2024? Thank you!
>>>
>>> Greetings,
>>> Andreas
>>>
>>> On Wed, 13 Dec 2023 at 09:00, Alessandro Pasotti <apasotti at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Andreas,
>>>>
>>>> I think my proposal probably came at the wrong time, there is no need
>>>> to rush  a decision.
>>>>
>>>> We can discuss it thoroughly next year.
>>>>
>>>> But, if we wanted to implement it for 2024, I think that we should
>>>> allocate a budget for at least 4 hours/week.
>>>>
>>>> We could probably reduce (half?) the budget for QT6 migration because I
>>>> expect that most of the work will be completed with the 2023 budget.
>>>>
>>>> I would really like to hear what other core devs think about this
>>>> proposal though, I only spoke with a few of them.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Il mar 12 dic 2023, 17:48 Andreas Neumann via QGIS-PSC <
>>>> qgis-psc at lists.osgeo.org> ha scritto:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear PSC colleagues,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd like to finalize the 2024 budget:
>>>>>
>>>>> The one major issue that needs discussion is the proposal from Ale to
>>>>> have fixed developers with fixed hours to do code and PR reviewing. What
>>>>> do the other PSC members think about this proposal?
>>>>>
>>>>> What is the required budget for this? Currently, we have 20k reserved
>>>>> for this. Is this enough? If not, how much would we need?
>>>>>
>>>>> If we would need more than 20k in the budget - what other budget items
>>>>> could we reduce to get a balanced out budget?
>>>>>
>>>>> See
>>>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19JlXyiY8KH8gvrERVDGjcA_HWE49GwL42F__HdJnT7I/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>> for the current budget proposal.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for your replies,
>>>>> Andreas
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Andreas Neumann
>>>>> QGIS.ORG board member (treasurer)
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Ismail Sunni
>> Software Engineer
>> ismailsunni.id
>> ismailsunni.wordpress.com
>>
>
>
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>
> --
> Andreas Neumann
> QGIS.ORG board member (treasurer)
>

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