[Qgis-psc] Request for repurposing of Grant to work on MacOS Packaging

[Matthias Kuhn]

Hi all,

Thank you for the quick and positive feedback.

The focus of this initiative at the moment is completely on mac packages,
with the end goal of notarisation (initially a DMG with updated
dependencies).
On windows we don't create an installer with vcpkg at the moment, we just
create a portable zip file. This is already very interesting for
development and testing, as it allows us to test unreleased upstream
patches. See for example https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/59990, where a
Qt patch for brand new blend modes can be tested. For production releases
OSGeo4W is still the gold standard.

While not yet planned, I am happy to discuss windows signing and
publication on the Microsoft Store, with QField we have already fully
automated publication on this channel via CI/CD pipelines. We can also do
this outside a budget meeting to avoid another most technical budget
meeting ever 😉.

Cheers
Matthias

On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 2:53 AM Marco Bernasocchi <marco at qgis.org> wrote:

> Hi Tim, Hi Régis,
>
> On Thu, 26 Dec 2024, 18:02 Tim Sutton via QGIS-PSC, <
> qgis-psc at lists.osgeo.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Matthias
>>
>> Happy xmas and new year to you! For me I am also fine with repurposing
>> the funds towards packaging but could I ask a few questions about the plan?:
>>
>> 1) Have your plans been discussed with Juergen? I kinda got the feeling
>> that he is being left out of the loop a bit here , and we are landing up
>> with our traditional 'two of everything' implementation strategy in QGIS. I
>> could be totally wrong about that so please feel free to correct me if I
>> am. Is there a concrete plan to eventually deprecate the NSIS and OSGEO
>> packaging work does? Or is the plan for them to exist side by side (isn't
>> that duplication of effort)?
>>
> Matthias came to the last PSC budget Meeting to explain and answer
> questions. Jürgen was there and they turned the meeting into the most
> technical budget meeting ever 😉
>
> To summarise the discussion, for now this effort is for MacOS only since
> this is where the shoe hurts and vcpkg is not yet a drop in replacement for
> OSGEO4w (for example GRASS and Saga are missing).
>
> 2) Similar question about mac packaging, and could you indicate
>> whether the packages will be notarised?
>>
> We also discussed this, and yes this is the goal
>
> 3) If I understand correctly, the vcpkg packages create MSI installers -
>> are these notarised for windows? Will the end result of the process be our
>> ability to publish QGIS in the MS App Store (and possibly bring donation
>> revenue to QGIS and ease pressure on our download servers),
>>
> See 1
>
>
> Cheers Marco
>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 26, 2024 at 7:20 PM Alessandro Pasotti via QGIS-PSC <
>> qgis-psc at lists.osgeo.org> wrote:
>>
>>> +1 from me as well.
>>>
>>> Thank you for your work.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Il mar 24 dic 2024, 11:17 Matthias Kuhn via QGIS-PSC <
>>> qgis-psc at lists.osgeo.org> ha scritto:
>>>
>>>> Dear PSC,
>>>>
>>>> I am reaching out to request a repurposing of the grant awarded last
>>>> year for "Cacheable provider metadata API". This grant was allocated for
>>>> improving the loading times of providers in QGIS, with a primary focus on
>>>> PostGIS.
>>>>
>>>> Since the QEP was written, significant improvements in this area have
>>>> already been implemented through other means, such as the parallelization
>>>> of loading providers. While we still see potential for further
>>>> optimizations, particularly in the deduplication of initial requests sent
>>>> to a PostgreSQL database, addressing these would require a thorough
>>>> reevaluation and an adjustment to the original scope of the grant.
>>>>
>>>> Meanwhile, vcpkg driven QGIS packages have gained a lot of momentum on
>>>> several platforms as well as being used by downstream projects like QField,
>>>> MerginMaps and Kadas Albireo. The demand for mac based packages is seeing a
>>>> significant increase in interest as well and, as stated in our recent
>>>> report, over the last few months considerable initial volunteer work has
>>>> been done by OPENGIS.ch on mac packaging and we'd like to push this through
>>>> the finish line and create reproducible CI-driven DMG packages.
>>>>
>>>> After many positive initial discussions with several people from PSC
>>>> and the community, I'd like to officially ask if such a repurposing of the
>>>> grant would be embraced by the PSC.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards and an excellent year-ending Matthias
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