[QGIS-user] Using GRASS' shell from within QGIS

[Nikos Alexandris]

On Sat, 2008-11-15 at 07:58 +0200, Tim Sutton wrote:
> Hi
> 
> 
> On Fri, 2008-11-14 at 11:59 +0100, Agustin Lobo wrote:
> > Nikos,
> > 
> > I think that this is again a consequence of the different point of
> > view of developers and users: from a user point of view, this is
> > clearly a bug, it's something that does not work as expected.
> 
> My view on filing bugs is that in general its better to file a bug if
> you are uncertain as to whetherr it merits a bug report or not with
> the
> following understanding:
> 
>  - just because a bug is filed doesnt always mean we can or will fix
> it.
> Sometimes people ask for things that will require many man hours to to
> and offer little reward to work ratio benifit when compared to the
> other
> issues int he queue. Also some things are simply not fixable due to
> whatever technical reason.
>  - sometimes we dont fix a bug because the users vision of how QGIS
> should behave doesnt match ours. Hey we are all humans it can
> happen...
> - always check that your bug has not already been filed by someone
> else
> since dealing with duplicate tickets causes a lot of time wasting.
> - always provide contact details and make sure you are subscribed to
> the
> ticket entry (either by adding yourself to CC field or by logging in
> before filing the ticket).
> - dont be offended if we dont see tickets as having the same priority
> as
> you do. While we appreciate its inconvenient if some issue prevents
> you
> doing your work, we need to take the big picture view of things and
> focus on things that affect the largest proportion of our user base.
> 
> Regards
> 
> 
> Tim

Thank you for your time Tim.

I understand and agree with you comments. It's understandable that not
everything can be read and fixed right here, right now (we, the
end-users, always want everything and we want it right now :-p).

Concerning this thread's specific issue (the GRASS terminal - if I may
call it so) my guess is that any developer would like this shell to make
full (and normal) use of the standard keys (left & right arrow, home &
end). Otherwise the terminal is not functional (e.g. when I type a
command and for some reason I want to "go back" or in the beginning of
the line to add something more or correct and the cursor does not
respond the "standard" way). So I just want to remind that it should
work like any other terminal.

In the Extreme Case Scenario that the developer's intentions are that
the GRASS terminal should work like that, then I would be satisfied with
a statement in the beginning like "this terminal resembles the GRASS
shell... in this way or the other way. The keys a, b, c don't work as
usual... ".

The reason(s) that I don't file immediately a ticket for anything that I
think it's not working well or I found a bug, is that maybe it's just a
"problem" on my installation (since I often mess up my system), or it's
not even a problem and I misunderstood something. Sometimes it goes
pretty fast with just an e-mail and sometimes not. But anyhow, I like
the atmosphere of the osgeo-mailing lists I follow and the fact that
things are moving fast and are getting better.

Regards, Nikos