[QGIS-user] Using GRASS' shell from within QGIS

[Agustin Lobo]

Tim,

Of course we are grateful to the work of developers
and understand that the final priority must include
a weight related to the involvement of the task. But
I also think that sometimes a problem may be seen
just as a minor issue for a developer, but could actually
be an important problem for users, in particular newcomers.
For example, for someone who wants to use QGIS as a GUI for grass,
feeling comfortable with the terminal is important.
The fact that me and Nikos see the current behaviour of the grass
terminal in QGIS as a bug but Alex sees it as a lacking feature, made
me suggest that both points of view have to be considered
for the final priority. I also agree with Nikos
in that, at least for users, it's good to discuss a problem in
the list prior to fill a ticket or a feature request. Otherwise
we could add lots of unnecessary tickets just because
of our (at least my) ignorance. And your point of
making sure that the person filling a ticket actually gets
subscribed to it is, I agree, critical: filling a ticket implies
the commitment of following it.

Thanks again to all who make the QGIS magic work.

Agus

Tim Sutton wrote:
> Hi
> 
> 
> On Fri, 2008-11-14 at 11:59 +0100, Agustin Lobo wrote:
>> Nikos,
>>
>> I think that this is again a consequence of the different point of
>> view of developers and users: from a user point of view, this is
>> clearly a bug, it's something that does not work as expected.
> 
> My view on filing bugs is that in general its better to file a bug if
> you are uncertain as to whetherr it merits a bug report or not with the
> following understanding:
> 
>  - just because a bug is filed doesnt always mean we can or will fix it.
> Sometimes people ask for things that will require many man hours to to
> and offer little reward to work ratio benifit when compared to the other
> issues int he queue. Also some things are simply not fixable due to
> whatever technical reason.
>  - sometimes we dont fix a bug because the users vision of how QGIS
> should behave doesnt match ours. Hey we are all humans it can happen...
> - always check that your bug has not already been filed by someone else
> since dealing with duplicate tickets causes a lot of time wasting.
> - always provide contact details and make sure you are subscribed to the
> ticket entry (either by adding yourself to CC field or by logging in
> before filing the ticket).
> - dont be offended if we dont see tickets as having the same priority as
> you do. While we appreciate its inconvenient if some issue prevents you
> doing your work, we need to take the big picture view of things and
> focus on things that affect the largest proportion of our user base.
> 
> Regards
> 
> 
> Tim
> 
> 
>> The "solution" I'm using is just opening an xterm with xterm &
>> and can work
>> from the new terminal with no problem. But this is just a temporary 
>> solution. May be we should at least document the problem and
>> the workaround, the current situation causes lots of frustration
>> to newcomers.
>>
>> Agus
>>> -----------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 6
>>> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:15:29 -0800
>>> From: Alex Mandel <tech_dev at wildintellect.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [QGIS-user] Using GRASS' shell from within QGIS
>>> To: qgis-user <qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org>
>>> Message-ID: <491CED51.7060903 at wildintellect.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>>
>>> Nikos Alexandris wrote:
>>>>> Hi all! Apologies for cross-posting.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know how frequently you use GRASS' shell from within QGIS. I
>>>>> like it but typing, deleting (with backspace) or using
>>>>> "arrow-keys" (left & right), "home" or "end" doesn't work as expected.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it only my installation or is it a known "bug"?
>>>>>
>>>>> As an extra, I would like to change the font. I don't need it so big and
>>>>> (why is it by deafult...) italics?
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards, Nikos
>>>>>
>>> I don't think it's a bug, I think it's a lack of features possibly due
>>> to a lack of features in QT.
>>>
>>> I'll let the developers weigh in on it but suggest you file a feature
>>> request on trac.osgeo.org/qgis
>>>
>>> Alex
>>>
> 

-- 
Dr. Agustin Lobo
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