[Qgis-user] qgis2google

Tim Sutton lists at linfiniti.com
Wed Oct 21 15:58:00 PDT 2009


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Hi

The counter side to the 'FOSS developers expect users to be compiling
geeks' debate is that users always want things at no effort and now :-)

G. Allegri wrote:
> With fewer words, it would be nice to have a "compile and build C++
> plugins for (linux|osgeo4w|mac) for dummies"  :-)

The process is inherently going to be technical and I think if people
are too overwhelmed by the technicalities of compiling their own
software, it is better to appeal for the plugin / patch etc. to be
included in the next official binary release and wait for that. For
those that like to delve into compiling themselves we have the CODING
document in the root of the source dir and on the wiki. I will probably
work a little to update the windows compilation guide (using MSVC)
during the hackfest (I don't have the bandwidth here to repeat the
process from scratch and check the documentation along the way).

Best regards

Tim

> giovanni
> 
> 2009/10/21, G. Allegri <giohappy at gmail.com>:
>> Nice topic.
>> My two cents. We cannot ask a "power user" to release its tools
>> cross-platform as a requirement. This is a must for the official
>> development, but probably most of the power users work on a single
>> environment.
>> So we can kindly ask for the possibility to have a tool
>> cross-platform, but if the developer cannot accomplish it (at least
>> not immediatly) a clear "how-to" to compile by ourselves could fill
>> the time gaps between cross-platform releases.
>>
>> I think it would help a lot to make make an effort to standardize the
>> compile/build process for Linux (it's already quite easy), Windows
>> (not so easy!!!), Mac (I don't know...) to put an end-user, if he
>> wants, to compile plugins (both C++ and python) by itself.
>> I've tried with Windows... but I've given up, lost between nmake,
>> MSVC, different libraries flavours, manglings between OsGeo4W
>> libraries and the system's ones... Jurgen knows what I'm talking about
>> :-(
>>
>> Anyway, I'm on the research side of the story. I prefer to use then compile
>> :)
>>
>> giovanni
>>
>> 2009/10/21 Barend Köbben <kobben at itc.nl>:
>>> I'm all for that, but again, please note that
>>>> a compilation guide for users
>>> is a 'contradictio in terminis' , ie. an average user should not have to
>>> compile, with or without a guide....
>>>
>>> --
>>> Barend Köbben
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>>>
>>>
>>> On 21-10-09 17:41, "Maxim Dubinin" <sim at gis-lab.info> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I guess we need policy written out for C++ plugins, how users are
>>>> going to get them under Linux, what devs should do to make user's life
>>>> easier, may be a compilation guide for users etc.
>>>>
>>>> Hackfest topic?
>>>>
>>>> Maxim
>>>>
>>>> Вы писали 21 октября 2009 г., 10:37:37:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> PC> On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:58:35 +0200, "G. Allegri"
>>>> <giohappy at gmail.com>
>>>> PC> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> I absolutely agree with you! I'm a geologist/soil scientist (as you),
>>>>>> and I prefer to concentrate on my research rather then learning build
>>>>>> systems and compile environments... I just do/try by myself in cases I
>>>>>> can't wait for a developer to build something for me
>>>> PC> Sure. End users shouldn't build anything.
>>>> PC> Please note however that windows users have now an excellent
>>>> opportunity:
>>>> PC> installing qgis-dev from osgeo4w gives you the latest qgis from
>>>> previous
>>>> PC> day, precompiled.
>>>> PC> All the best.
>>>>
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