[Qgis-user] Re: SEXTANTE in Qgia for OS X
Sergio Zárate
acac09 at gmail.com
Sat Mar 31 18:49:49 PDT 2012
As soon as I saw the release of SEXTANTE for OSX announced in this list I
downloaded and installed it. To do that, I noticed SEXTANTE is unavailable
from repos, so I got it from Qgis plugins page and copied to the right
folder. The gui worked as far as showing the capabilities. I believe SAGA
is a must for some of the work I do, so SEXTANTE is the answer to that in
Mac OSX. But I had similar problems as people have reported here in Linux
(maybe, I did not copy the log file but looked similar) and could not get
anything actually done (I used GRASS raster layers). My guess was paths to
save folders but configuring that failed. I uninstalled it under warning
that repo is missing and now am waiting for Victor Olaya's development and
release (it now lists as deprecated).
I want to encourage this project as it fulfills integration of all the
power and easiness of Qgis, SAGA and, hopefully GRASS: for a price. I must
state that I do not use R or Python due to my ignorance. However, I follow
that layers from GRASS are not available for SAGA, right? It would be great
if SEXTANTE coud handle ANY layer and come up with a result maybe through
actual importing exporting from Qgis to external apps???
Sergio
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> From: Mark Hall <mhall89446 at att.net>
> Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Closure of forum
> To: Mats Elfstr?m <mats.elfstrom at gmail.com>
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> How does one join the QGISGRASS group?
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> ________________________________
> From: Mats Elfström <mats.elfstrom at gmail.com>
> To: Nick Hopton <nhopton at gmail.com>
> Cc: qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org
> Sent: Sat, March 31, 2012 10:30:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Closure of forum
>
> Hi!
> Start a Google Qgis group, or join the existing QGISGRASS group.
> That way all is taken care of, and no one needs to host or administer the
> thing.
> It could be fully open, or for registered users only.
>
> Regards, Mats.E
>
>
>
> Den 31 mars 2012 19:10 skrev Nick Hopton <nhopton at gmail.com>:
>
> I read QGIS-User on Nabble, where the posts on the closure of the forum
> >appear somehow to have got mixed up with the Sextante thread, so forgive
> me
> >for starting a new thread.
> >
> >The closure is a done deal I suppose but I think it will be harmful to
> QGIS.
> >Forum users are now being pointed to Stack Exchange but many of them
> will, I
> >believe, take one look at Stack Exchange and run a mile. The Stack
> Exchange
> >GIS FAQ makes it quite clear that SE is intended for "...cartographers,
> >database administrators, geographers, programmers, and anyone interested
> in
> >or using GIS professionally."
> >
> >I don't fit into any one of these categories, nor I think would many of
> the
> >people who used to post on the forum. They tended to be newcomers to QGIS,
> >or people who make maps and use GIS as just a part of their job, or as
> part
> >of a recreational activity, or any combination of the three. Some of them
> >will be young and engaged in things like school projects. It would be nice
> >to think that these people will shift to SE, but I can't see this
> happening.
> >But we'll soon be able to tell, if things work as hoped a lot of
> newby-type
> >questions should soon start appearing on SE. It will be interesting to see
> >the responses.
> >
> >--
> >View this message in context:
> >
> http://osgeo-org.1560.n6.nabble.com/Closure-of-forum-tp4674587p4674587.html
> >Sent from the Quantum GIS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 21:41:05 +0200
> From: gvSIGMac <gvsig.mac at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Qgis-user] Sextante on Mac
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> Carlos,
> Did you check show experimental plugins in options ? I've been able to
> install it in several machines.
> Best
> ________________________________
> Agustin
>
> Am 31/03/2012 um 19:40 schrieb qgis-user-request at lists.osgeo.org:
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> > 1. Closure of forum (Nick Hopton)
> > 2. Re: Re: Donations -> Knowledge mananagment platform
> > (Maxim Dubinin)
> > 3. Re: Closure of forum (Gary Sherman)
> > 4. Re: Closure of forum (Mats Elfstr?m)
> > 5. Re: SEXTANTE for QGIS has been released (Carlos Grohmann)
> > 6. Re: SEXTANTE for QGIS has been released (Gary Sherman)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 10:10:12 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Nick Hopton <nhopton at gmail.com>
> > Subject: [Qgis-user] Closure of forum
> > To: qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org
> > Message-ID: <1333213812573-4674587.post at n6.nabble.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> > I read QGIS-User on Nabble, where the posts on the closure of the forum
> > appear somehow to have got mixed up with the Sextante thread, so forgive
> me
> > for starting a new thread.
> >
> > The closure is a done deal I suppose but I think it will be harmful to
> QGIS.
> > Forum users are now being pointed to Stack Exchange but many of them
> will, I
> > believe, take one look at Stack Exchange and run a mile. The Stack
> Exchange
> > GIS FAQ makes it quite clear that SE is intended for "...cartographers,
> > database administrators, geographers, programmers, and anyone interested
> in
> > or using GIS professionally."
> >
> > I don't fit into any one of these categories, nor I think would many of
> the
> > people who used to post on the forum. They tended to be newcomers to
> QGIS,
> > or people who make maps and use GIS as just a part of their job, or as
> part
> > of a recreational activity, or any combination of the three. Some of them
> > will be young and engaged in things like school projects. It would be
> nice
> > to think that these people will shift to SE, but I can't see this
> happening.
> > But we'll soon be able to tell, if things work as hoped a lot of
> newby-type
> > questions should soon start appearing on SE. It will be interesting to
> see
> > the responses.
> >
> > --
> > View this message in context:
> http://osgeo-org.1560.n6.nabble.com/Closure-of-forum-tp4674587p4674587.html
> > Sent from the Quantum GIS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 21:14:54 +0400
> > From: Maxim Dubinin <sim at gis-lab.info>
> > Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Re: Donations -> Knowledge mananagment
> > platform
> > To: qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org
> > Message-ID: <1392902595.20120331211454 at gis-lab.info>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> >>> I'm surprised it is ignored what actual users of the forum said [0].
> >
> > GS> It should be noted that only 12 people of the hundreds that used
> > GS> the forum cared enough to vote. This can hardly be viewed as a
> consensus opinion.
> > Yes, this is not very many.
> > But are 6 +1'ers here on ML more than those 12? Are they consensus?
> > I should also point out that the referred topic was closed for voting
> > and comments on Oct, 2011.
> >
> >>> I'm also surprised how quickly the thread 'how to make forum better'
> turned
> >>> into 'lets close it because we don't like it/don't want to spend time
> on it'.
> > GS> This issue has been discussed for nearly a year in one form or
> another.
> > And? Plans for moving? Explaining forum users that they will no longer
> > have access? May be asking top 10-20 active users? Anything?
> >
> > People are different, they like different things and ways to
> > communicate. Forum was not dead.
> >
> > I think this was a rush decision.
> >
> > Maxim
> >
> >>>
> >>> I thought such decisions should at least go through PSC voting.
> >
> > GS> While there was no formal vote, the members of the PSC and
> > GS> community have expressed their opinion.
> >
> > GS> Personally I am neutral on whether the forum lived or died.
> >
> >>>
> >>> [0] http://forum.qgis.org/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=9025
> >>>
> >>> Maxim
> >>>
> >>>> We could also close the forums and tell everyone to use
> gis.stackexchange
> >>>> instead. That would reduce maintenance necessary on our side. It
> would also
> >>>> increase visibility of QGIS in the eyes of ESRI folks if more QGIS
> >>>> questions pop up on stackexchange.
> >>>>
> >>>> Personally, I would welcome shutting down the forums since it would
> free
> >>>> me of the repetitive work of deleting dozens of spam threads every
> day.
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Qgis-user mailing list
> >>> Qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org
> >>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
> >
> > GS> -gary
> >
> > GS> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> > GS> Gary Sherman
> > GS> GeoApt LLC
> > GS> http://geoapt.com
> > GS> Founder, Quantum GIS
> > GS> Chair, QGIS PSC
> > GS> Book:
> > GS> http://geospatialdesktop.com
> > GS> "We work virtually everywhere"
> > GS> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 09:23:26 -0800
> > From: Gary Sherman <gsherman at geoapt.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Closure of forum
> > To: Nick Hopton <nhopton at gmail.com>
> > Cc: Gary Sherman <gsherman at geoapt.com>, qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org
> > Message-ID: <543167D9-003A-4469-B9C9-6373393B7FC5 at geoapt.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> > On Mar 31, 2012, at 9:10 AM, Nick Hopton wrote:
> >
> >> The closure is a done deal I suppose but I think it will be harmful to
> QGIS.
> >> Forum users are now being pointed to Stack Exchange but many of them
> will, I
> >> believe, take one look at Stack Exchange and run a mile.
> >
> > The forum would have closed a year ago if I had not kept it running on
> my server.
> >
> > I think there is a large gap between the developer and user community
> with regard to support methods.
> >
> > Some people relied on the forum solely for support. Others think our
> support mechanisms are fragmented and strongly dislike forums. Maybe
> closing it will force some useful discussion.
> >
> > -gary
> >
> > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> > Gary Sherman
> > GeoApt LLC
> > http://geoapt.com
> > Founder, Quantum GIS
> > Chair, QGIS PSC
> > Book:
> > http://geospatialdesktop.com
> > "We work virtually everywhere"
> > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 19:30:52 +0200
> > From: Mats Elfstr?m <mats.elfstrom at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Closure of forum
> > To: Nick Hopton <nhopton at gmail.com>
> > Cc: qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org
> > Message-ID:
> > <CAO1MNmWjXGDbQgEWxwt=uK3y0ORHB5oxLi+1jCaepZ2N72GFEw at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > Hi!
> > Start a Google Qgis group, or join the existing QGISGRASS group.
> > That way all is taken care of, and no one needs to host or administer the
> > thing.
> > It could be fully open, or for registered users only.
> >
> > Regards, Mats.E
> >
> >
> > Den 31 mars 2012 19:10 skrev Nick Hopton <nhopton at gmail.com>:
> >
> >> I read QGIS-User on Nabble, where the posts on the closure of the forum
> >> appear somehow to have got mixed up with the Sextante thread, so
> forgive me
> >> for starting a new thread.
> >>
> >> The closure is a done deal I suppose but I think it will be harmful to
> >> QGIS.
> >> Forum users are now being pointed to Stack Exchange but many of them
> will,
> >> I
> >> believe, take one look at Stack Exchange and run a mile. The Stack
> Exchange
> >> GIS FAQ makes it quite clear that SE is intended for "...cartographers,
> >> database administrators, geographers, programmers, and anyone
> interested in
> >> or using GIS professionally."
> >>
> >> I don't fit into any one of these categories, nor I think would many of
> the
> >> people who used to post on the forum. They tended to be newcomers to
> QGIS,
> >> or people who make maps and use GIS as just a part of their job, or as
> part
> >> of a recreational activity, or any combination of the three. Some of
> them
> >> will be young and engaged in things like school projects. It would be
> nice
> >> to think that these people will shift to SE, but I can't see this
> >> happening.
> >> But we'll soon be able to tell, if things work as hoped a lot of
> newby-type
> >> questions should soon start appearing on SE. It will be interesting to
> see
> >> the responses.
> >>
> >> --
> >> View this message in context:
> >>
> http://osgeo-org.1560.n6.nabble.com/Closure-of-forum-tp4674587p4674587.html
> >> Sent from the Quantum GIS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Qgis-user mailing list
> >> Qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org
> >> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > ______________________________________________
> > Mats Elfstr�m, V�pplingv�gen 21, SE-227 38 LUND, Sweden
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> > Message: 5
> > Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 14:35:09 -0300
> > From: Carlos Grohmann <carlos.grohmann at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] SEXTANTE for QGIS has been released
> > To: qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org
> > Message-ID: <00B3404813A44136AC6EEA6E6F588A8B at gmail.com>
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> >
> > Hi, I couldn't find the sextant plugin in qgis 1.7 on mac os x. is it on
> http://mapserver.sk/~wonder/qgis/plugins-sandbox.xml? this repo is giving
> connection errors.
> >
> > best
> >
> > Carlos
> >
> > --
> > Prof. Carlos Henrique Grohmann
> > Institute of Geosciences - Univ. of São Paulo, Brazil
> > - Digital Terrain Analysis | GIS | Remote Sensing -
> >
> > http://carlosgrohmann.com (http://carlosgrohmann.com/)
> > ________________
> > Can’t stop the signal.
> > Sent with Sparrow (http://www.sparrowmailapp.com/?sig)
> >
> >
> > On Friday, 30 March 2012 at 18:19, Victor Olaya wrote:
> >
> >>> One remark / request on concerning GRASS; as the GRASS algorithms are
> >>> already available through the GRASS toolbox, the main thing for me
> would be
> >>> to enable the use of GRASS raster and vector layers in all the SAGA
> (and
> >>> other) modules. I assume this will be part of the working version you
> >>> mention?
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> Well, the idea is just the opposite: to use any raster or vector layer
> >> in GRASS, directly from QGIS. "Any" in this context means any "normal"
> >> file-based layer. What you propose is just the opposite: to use GRASS
> >> layers in other apps. This is something I plan to work on later. As I
> >> mentioned in the release note, now SEXTANTE handles those "normal"
> >> layers, but not others like layers from remote services, from DB
> >> connections or "special" layers like GRASS ones. I hope to give
> >> support for all that as well, so any layer than can be loaded into
> >> QGIS can be passed to an external application transparently, with
> >> SEXTANTE doing the necessary work of conversion or whatever is needed.
> >> However, I will wait until this first version works fine before
> >> starting that.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Qgis-user mailing list
> >> Qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org (mailto:Qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org)
> >> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
> >>
> >>
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> > Message: 6
> > Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 09:39:41 -0800
> > From: Gary Sherman <gsherman at geoapt.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] SEXTANTE for QGIS has been released
> > To: Carlos Grohmann <carlos.grohmann at gmail.com>
> > Cc: Gary Sherman <gsherman at geoapt.com>, qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org
> > Message-ID: <32D6EE4A-6C0E-4CD8-A955-3A69D6D2FF0D at geoapt.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
> >
> > On Mar 31, 2012, at 9:35 AM, Carlos Grohmann wrote:
> >
> >> Hi, I couldn't find the sextant plugin in qgis 1.7 on mac os x. is it
> on http://mapserver.sk/~wonder/qgis/plugins-sandbox.xml? this repo is
> giving connection errors.
> >>
> >> best
> >>
> > It is in the new plugin repository (
> http://plugins.qgis.org/plugins/plugins.xml). You must have enabled
> viewing of experimental plugins in the Options tab of the plugin installer
> in order to see it.
> >
> >
> >> Carlos
> >>
> >> --
> >> Prof. Carlos Henrique Grohmann
> >> Institute of Geosciences - Univ. of S�o Paulo, Brazil
> >> - Digital Terrain Analysis | GIS | Remote Sensing -
> >>
> >> http://carlosgrohmann.com
> >> ________________
> >> Can�t stop the signal.
> >> Sent with Sparrow
> >>
> >> On Friday, 30 March 2012 at 18:19, Victor Olaya wrote:
> >>
> >>>> One remark / request on concerning GRASS; as the GRASS algorithms are
> >>>> already available through the GRASS toolbox, the main thing for me
> would be
> >>>> to enable the use of GRASS raster and vector layers in all the SAGA
> (and
> >>>> other) modules. I assume this will be part of the working version you
> >>>> mention?
> >>>
> >>> Well, the idea is just the opposite: to use any raster or vector layer
> >>> in GRASS, directly from QGIS. "Any" in this context means any "normal"
> >>> file-based layer. What you propose is just the opposite: to use GRASS
> >>> layers in other apps. This is something I plan to work on later. As I
> >>> mentioned in the release note, now SEXTANTE handles those "normal"
> >>> layers, but not others like layers from remote services, from DB
> >>> connections or "special" layers like GRASS ones. I hope to give
> >>> support for all that as well, so any layer than can be loaded into
> >>> QGIS can be passed to an external application transparently, with
> >>> SEXTANTE doing the necessary work of conversion or whatever is needed.
> >>> However, I will wait until this first version works fine before
> >>> starting that.
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Qgis-user mailing list
> >>> Qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org
> >>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Qgis-user mailing list
> >> Qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org
> >> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
> >
> > -gary
> >
> > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> > Gary Sherman
> > GeoApt LLC
> > http://geoapt.com
> > Founder, Quantum GIS
> > Chair, QGIS PSC
> > Book:
> > http://geospatialdesktop.com
> > "We work virtually everywhere"
> > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Qgis-user mailing list
> > Qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org
> > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
> >
> >
> > End of Qgis-user Digest, Vol 73, Issue 113
> > ******************************************
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 00:06:10 +0200
> From: "Bernd Vogelgesang" <bernd.vogelgesang at gmx.de>
> Subject: [Qgis-user] Re: Closure of forum
> To: qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org
> Message-ID: <op.wb12ckqll2i25i at bernd-aspire-5741g>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Hi,
> I'm a bit shocked about what my small remark on maybe spending some
> donations on creating a knowledgebase for QGIS set loose.
>
> My observation is, that the acting people still focus on their prefered
> tools and ways of communication, and only want to make quick changes and
> maybe set another link here or there.
> The ones are happy with mailing lists, the others wanna move more to wikis
> and the next think that stackexchange is the solution.
>
> But my point was not about using existing stuff, but building something
> completely new, which really fits the needs and is not only a compromise
> of whats available and what is needed.
> A forum is no wiki, a wiki can't be used as a ticket system, a mailing
> list can't serve as "best practice" collection ...
>
> I understand, that you all don't want to waste much time on creating such
> things, but use already available services.
> And I'm 100% sure that developers shouldn't waste their valuable time on
> those things anyway, but do what they can do best: develop QGIS!
>
> From the users perspective (and i think thats the goal: to use the great
> things you all develop) this hole fragmented infrastructure has no "face"
> and it's really confusing.
>
> What is really missing is the "glue" between those tools, to make it
> easier for people to contribute.
>
> All this takes a lot of time to take care of, which most people don't have.
> Thats why i proposed to maybe spend donations for building a community
> platform, where all functions could be easily found and maintained.
>
> I can imagine that a lot of people don't like that idea for their reasons,
> but i think that's what QGIS really deserves!
>
> I'm just another ambitioned QGIS-user and no professional in this field,
> but i'm sure that if "WE" would decide to go that way, that other people
> are being found who can help bring things forward. At least we should try
> ...
>
> I myself will find the necessary infos sooner or later using google, but
> i'm sure that there are thousands of people outside who have no idea about
> QGIS's potential and value and who will get lost on their way to find
> answers ...
>
> Thanx
> Bernd
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