[Qgis-user] Qgis-user Digest, Vol 89, Issue 84

Leo Kris Palao lk.palao at gmail.com
Fri Jul 19 02:18:37 PDT 2013


Hi Andreas,

Thanks for your detailed response and suggestions. I will certainly
consider those issues that you raised and suggestions, as well as try
NextGIS. We are really moving towards paper less fieldwork, that is why we
are exploring how tablets and QGIS can be optimized for field use. I have
limited experience in using Ubuntu/Linux OS, and for now I am more
comfortable in using QGIS on a Windows platform. Hence I preferred QGIS on
a Windows tablet. I would love to try QGIS on Ubuntu so everything will be
Opensourced.

I have tried running QGIS on our android device. I installed the QGIS
nightly in Samsung Galaxy Tab. I loaded a road map and administrative
boundary map. Everything is okay when I navigate, but when I click the
*Automatically
add point *in *Tracks* and *Automatically save added feature*, then after a
short navigation then QGIS will stop and exit.

I agree to you that QGIS on a tablet should be further improved. Anyone can
just carry a tablet device instead of the usual paper, ballpen, and GPS.

My preference on using Windows tablet is because I want to use QT forms in
QGIS as a platform for conducting field surveys. Although I have not yet
actually tried it before. But according to the blog and post of Nathan,
QGIS is working well in Windows tablet.

Hi Nathan, I really want to try QMap. Any documents or related web links
that you can share to install QMap (to have the interface like the one you
posted in your email). Right now, what I have tried is to use QT forms in
QGIS on my laptop (just to explore the functionality). I assume that
installing and using QGIS and QT is the same as installing and using it in
PCs and laptops.

Thank you,

-Leo


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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 12:36:16 -0700 (PDT)
> From: pcreso at pcreso.com
> To: image <lcelati at latitude-geosystems.com>
> Cc: "qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org" <qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org>
> Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Geostats tool (bathymetry)
> Message-ID:
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> I suggest yo look at using GMT to work with these data.
>
> http://gmt.soest.hawaii.edu
>
> turn both datasets into DEM's & compare them (subtract one from the other
> to return an anomaly grid). You can do some of this sort of work with
> GDAL/QGIS, but GMT is optimised for bathymetric data - one of the few GIS
> tools that is used more in aquatic (& geological) domains than typical
> terrestrial GIS.
>
>
>
>  2013/7/17 image <lcelati at latitude-geosystems.com>
>
>  Dear  all,
>
>
>  I have 2 bathymetric data : one raster (generated by a black
>  box from an
>
>  image satellite Kompsat2 multispectral) AND a vector data
>  (our reference)
>
>  with a field informing bathymeric values.
>
>  So we would like comparate these 2 data with a geostats
>  tool. Is there a
>
>  tool in qgis to do that (grass? sextante? taudem? saga?
>  Other tool?).
>
>  Moreover, we have a excel file with several rows with
>  several columns
>
>  informing ?: bathy values (reference+ generated data)/
>  Coordinates (image
>
>  pixel row column).
>
>
>
>  If you can tell me what availabale tools could be
>  interesting for me?
>
>
>
>  Thank you very much.
>
>
>
>  Regards.
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>
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> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 09:32:57 +0800
> From: Leo Kris Palao <lk.palao at gmail.com>
> To: qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org
> Subject: [Qgis-user] QGIS and QT Designer
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> Dear QGIS Users,
>
> I am exploring the synergy of QGIS and QT on a tablet for field work and
> field validation activities. I learn this functionality from Nathan
> Woodrow. As I understand, I need QGIS-dev and QT-dev packages to facilitate
> the integration of QT forms in QGIS. This require the use of OSGeo4W
> installer to install the packages, hence this makes Windows-based tablets
> appropriate to use.
>
> Right now, the only way to use the QT designer in QGIS is to have a vector
> point layer in which the fields are linked to the widgets in the QT form.
> In this case, for QT form to work (*pop-up in the map*) a user should
> digitize a point in the map canvass. Is there a way to use the GPS
> location/coordinates (*like mark waypoint in GPS*) instead of digitizing my
> points? For instance, I can use the current GPS location instead of
> manually digitizing my points. Or it can be the other way around, where I
> have an existing point layer and when you select on a specific point
> feature in the map canvass the QT forms will pop-up and populate or update
> the attribute information of that point. Does this makes sense?
>
> By the way (if it is okay), can anybody recommend a good windows-based
> tablet (that can support QGIS and QT, longer battery life, and with minimal
> glare when used outdoors)?
>
> Thank you.
> -Leo
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> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 09:38:10 +0200
> From: Andreas Neumann <a.neumann at carto.net>
> To: qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org
> Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS and QT Designer
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> Hi Leo,
>
> QGIS is far from being optimal for mobile solutions currently. I hope
> this can be improved with future versions. There is an effort going on
> for QGIS an Android. See http://android.qgis.org/ and
> http://android.qgis.org/download/qgis-for-android.pdf
>
> Personally - if you do a lot of data input (esp. with text) - I would
> use a small laptop or notebook - not a tablet. The virtual keyboards are
> way inferior to physical keyboards. The other thing is that QGIS desktop
> UI is not yet optimized for touch usage. It may work - sort of - but is
> certainly not a good user experience.
>
> If you deal primarily with point data and want to use a phone/table -
> you may want to have a look at Nextgis mobile - see the email thread
> starting here:
> http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/qgis-user/2013-July/023123.html - it
> will collaborate with QGIS and is more user-friendly and light-weight.
>
> Don't get me wrong - I hope that QGIS improves in mobile space - and
> work has already started. And I would appreciate if more
> people/organizations would put work or financial resources into
> improving it. But if you look for a good and quick solution now - you
> will probably be disappointed.
>
> ------
>
> To answer some of your other questions: You can also attach a form to
> non-geometry table. You can then open the form by right-clicking a row
> in the attribute table - again - this may be a bad experience on a
> touch-device, where the rows in the table may be too small and you would
> probably have to long-click as there is no right-click.
>
> BTW: why do you have the impression that only Windows tablets would
> work? You can also use Linux/Ubuntu based tablets or Android tablets.
> The Android version still needs some further improvements/testing.
>
> Panasonic does good outdoor tablets:
>
> http://www.panasonic.com/business/toughpad/us/best-android-rugged-tablet-overview.asp
>
> Hope this helps. I would love to see the mobile input improved in QGIS.
>
> Andreas
>
> Am 19.07.2013 03:32, schrieb Leo Kris Palao:
> > Dear QGIS Users,
> >
> > I am exploring the synergy of QGIS and QT on a tablet for field work and
> > field validation activities. I learn this functionality from Nathan
> > Woodrow. As I understand, I need QGIS-dev and QT-dev packages to
> facilitate
> > the integration of QT forms in QGIS. This require the use of OSGeo4W
> > installer to install the packages, hence this makes Windows-based tablets
> > appropriate to use.
> >
> > Right now, the only way to use the QT designer in QGIS is to have a
> vector
> > point layer in which the fields are linked to the widgets in the QT form.
> > In this case, for QT form to work (*pop-up in the map*) a user should
> > digitize a point in the map canvass. Is there a way to use the GPS
> > location/coordinates (*like mark waypoint in GPS*) instead of digitizing
> my
> > points? For instance, I can use the current GPS location instead of
> > manually digitizing my points. Or it can be the other way around, where I
> > have an existing point layer and when you select on a specific point
> > feature in the map canvass the QT forms will pop-up and populate or
> update
> > the attribute information of that point. Does this makes sense?
> >
> > By the way (if it is okay), can anybody recommend a good windows-based
> > tablet (that can support QGIS and QT, longer battery life, and with
> minimal
> > glare when used outdoors)?
> >
> > Thank you.
> > -Leo
> >
> >
> >
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> > Qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org
> > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 17:52:58 +1000
> From: Nathan Woodrow <madmanwoo at gmail.com>
> To: Andreas Neumann <a.neumann at carto.net>
> Cc: qgis-user <qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org>
> Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS and QT Designer
> Message-ID:
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> ChfwMi0EQ at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Hey Andreas,
>
> With a bit of work you can make QGIS work pretty well on a touch device.  I
> have it running nice on a Windows Surface with a reduced interface and some
> Python code.  This is why I built QMap.
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/nzd1sziwrmacxbc/qmap.png
>
> - Nathan
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Andreas Neumann <a.neumann at carto.net
> >wrote:
>
> > Hi Leo,
> >
> > QGIS is far from being optimal for mobile solutions currently. I hope
> > this can be improved with future versions. There is an effort going on
> > for QGIS an Android. See http://android.qgis.org/ and
> > http://android.qgis.org/download/qgis-for-android.pdf
> >
> > Personally - if you do a lot of data input (esp. with text) - I would
> > use a small laptop or notebook - not a tablet. The virtual keyboards are
> > way inferior to physical keyboards. The other thing is that QGIS desktop
> > UI is not yet optimized for touch usage. It may work - sort of - but is
> > certainly not a good user experience.
> >
> > If you deal primarily with point data and want to use a phone/table -
> > you may want to have a look at Nextgis mobile - see the email thread
> > starting here:
> > http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/qgis-user/2013-July/023123.html - it
> > will collaborate with QGIS and is more user-friendly and light-weight.
> >
> > Don't get me wrong - I hope that QGIS improves in mobile space - and
> > work has already started. And I would appreciate if more
> > people/organizations would put work or financial resources into
> > improving it. But if you look for a good and quick solution now - you
> > will probably be disappointed.
> >
> > ------
> >
> > To answer some of your other questions: You can also attach a form to
> > non-geometry table. You can then open the form by right-clicking a row
> > in the attribute table - again - this may be a bad experience on a
> > touch-device, where the rows in the table may be too small and you would
> > probably have to long-click as there is no right-click.
> >
> > BTW: why do you have the impression that only Windows tablets would
> > work? You can also use Linux/Ubuntu based tablets or Android tablets.
> > The Android version still needs some further improvements/testing.
> >
> > Panasonic does good outdoor tablets:
> >
> >
> http://www.panasonic.com/business/toughpad/us/best-android-rugged-tablet-overview.asp
> >
> > Hope this helps. I would love to see the mobile input improved in QGIS.
> >
> > Andreas
> >
> > Am 19.07.2013 03:32, schrieb Leo Kris Palao:
> > > Dear QGIS Users,
> > >
> > > I am exploring the synergy of QGIS and QT on a tablet for field work
> and
> > > field validation activities. I learn this functionality from Nathan
> > > Woodrow. As I understand, I need QGIS-dev and QT-dev packages to
> > facilitate
> > > the integration of QT forms in QGIS. This require the use of OSGeo4W
> > > installer to install the packages, hence this makes Windows-based
> tablets
> > > appropriate to use.
> > >
> > > Right now, the only way to use the QT designer in QGIS is to have a
> > vector
> > > point layer in which the fields are linked to the widgets in the QT
> form.
> > > In this case, for QT form to work (*pop-up in the map*) a user should
> > > digitize a point in the map canvass. Is there a way to use the GPS
> > > location/coordinates (*like mark waypoint in GPS*) instead of
> digitizing
> > my
> > > points? For instance, I can use the current GPS location instead of
> > > manually digitizing my points. Or it can be the other way around,
> where I
> > > have an existing point layer and when you select on a specific point
> > > feature in the map canvass the QT forms will pop-up and populate or
> > update
> > > the attribute information of that point. Does this makes sense?
> > >
> > > By the way (if it is okay), can anybody recommend a good windows-based
> > > tablet (that can support QGIS and QT, longer battery life, and with
> > minimal
> > > glare when used outdoors)?
> > >
> > > Thank you.
> > > -Leo
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Qgis-user mailing list
> > > Qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org
> > > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
> > >
> >
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> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 10:19:26 +0200
> From: Christophe B <ampouillle at gmail.com>
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> Subject: [Qgis-user] Setting up an FTP server to read a json file
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> hello,
> I try to open a json from an FTP server. I configured my FTP server for the
> rights to read and write on my file, authorized the reading of the file
> before downloading.
> When I open my file from the url ftp://user:password @ urlfile, Qgis told
> me that the file format is not recognized.
> This same file located locally or on a personal FTP server (
> ftpperso.free.fr
> ) works perfectly in QGIS.
> How to setup the FTP server for QGIS can read the json?
>
> thank you for your reply
>
> Christophe
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