[Qgis-user] Processing complement down !

Nicolas Cadieux nicolas.cadieux at archeotec.ca
Sat Jan 23 13:22:16 PST 2016


Hi, 
Processing is a plugin.  Have you tried tried reinstalling it? 
Nicolas Cadieux M.Sc. 
Les Entreprises Archéotec inc.  
8548, rue Saint-Denis Montréal H2P 2H2 
Téléphone: 514.381.5112  Fax: 514.381.4995 
www.archeotec.ca 
On Jan 23, 2016 16:13, "Allan López [via OSGeo.org]	" <ml-node+s1560n5246928h29 at n6.nabble.com> wrote: 

	Hi,  My processing complement icon is not displayed and when trying to activate-reinstall it I get this message. Suggestions. Happy weekEnd ! Allan López No se pudo cargar el complemento processing debido a un error al llamar a su método initGui() 
RuntimeError: maximum recursion depth exceeded in cmp 
Traceback (most recent call last):   File "C:/PROGRA~1/QGISLY~1/apps/qgis/./python\qgis\utils.py", line 315, in startPlugin     plugins[packageName].initGui() 2016-01-23 14:00 GMT-06:00  < [hidden email] >: <blockquote style="border-left:2px solid #cccccc;padding:0 1em" style="margin:0 0 0 0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Send Qgis-user mailing list submissions to 
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Today's Topics: 

   1. Problems on Windows Server 2008 r2 (Steven Hirsch) 
   2. desktop icons on fresh windows (Richard Duivenvoorde) 
   3. Re: desktop icons on fresh windows (Michael Treglia) 
   4. Re: desktop icons on fresh windows (Carlos Cerdán) 
   5. Re: desktop icons on fresh windows (Paolo Cavallini) 
   6. Re: desktop icons on fresh windows (Bernd Vogelgesang) 
   7. Re: desktop icons on fresh windows (Richard Duivenvoorde) 
   8. Re: desktop icons on fresh windows (Mats Elfström) 
   9. crash loading missing wfs connection (emmexx) 
  10. Re: crash loading missing wfs connection (Matthias Kuhn) 
  11. Re: crash loading missing wfs connection (Richard Duivenvoorde) 
  12. Re: crash loading missing wfs connection (emmexx) 
  13. Re: crash loading missing wfs connection (Richard Duivenvoorde) 


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Message: 1 
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 16:37:07 -0500 (EST) 
From: Steven Hirsch < [hidden email] > 
To: [hidden email] 
Subject: [Qgis-user] Problems on Windows Server 2008 r2 
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1601221628300.4117@z87> 
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I spent an afternoon trying in vain to get QGis running on a Windows 
Server 2008 r2 virtual machine.  Tried: 

- Version 2.12 64 and 32 bit 

- Version 2.8 LTR 64 bit 

In all cases, there is an error about "File in use" in the installation 
dialog with no further details.  The installation does complete with no 
obvious error messages. 

When I try to run QGis desktop it traps to the Windows error pop-up at the 
"Initializing GUI" phase.  Same with all three attempts. 

I did find plenty of discussion about 32 bit DLLs, Microsoft C++ runtime, 
etc., but my impression is that this was relative to versions older than 
the one I'm trying. 

One pertinent fact might be that I'm connecting via RDP from another 
machine.  Is it possible that the GUI is having issues with that? 

I don't have any choice regarding the environment, unfortunately, but 
would really like to get it running there somehow. 

Any suggestions for trouble-shooting this?  I'm very experienced with 
chasing down system issues on Linux, but know very little about Windows 
(I'd like to run the Linux version, but we're stuck at RedHat EL6 and I 
cannot find any 2.x builds for that platform). 



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Message: 2 
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 23:07:37 +0100 
From: Richard Duivenvoorde < [hidden email] > 
To: " [hidden email] " < [hidden email] > 
Subject: [Qgis-user] desktop icons on fresh windows 
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Hi Users, 

I've installed QGIS for other beginning QGIS users recently. 

And almost 8 out of 10 are overwhelmed with the number of icons that are 
place on their desktop, and do not know which one to 'start'. 

What about with a fresh windows install ONLY place th QGIS-Desktop 
window on your desktop, all other stuff (designer, browser, cli etc etc) 
are already available. 

Does this sound as a good idea? Please let me/us know... 

Second step is to find out how to do this :-) 

Regards, 

Richard 


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Message: 3 
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 16:40:17 -0600 
From: Michael Treglia < [hidden email] > 
To: Richard Duivenvoorde < [hidden email] > 
Cc: " [hidden email] " < [hidden email] > 
Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] desktop icons on fresh windows 
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Hi Richard, 

I think that's a good suggestion, as I've had the exact same experience 
with new users (and it creates some desktop clutter). 

As a regular QGIS user, I actually tend to remove the icons other than qgis 
desktop and open up anything else I need via start menu or command line. 


Thanks! 
Cheers, 
mike 

On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 4:07 PM, Richard Duivenvoorde < [hidden email] > 
wrote: 

> Hi Users, 
> 
> I've installed QGIS for other beginning QGIS users recently. 
> 
> And almost 8 out of 10 are overwhelmed with the number of icons that are 
> place on their desktop, and do not know which one to 'start'. 
> 
> What about with a fresh windows install ONLY place th QGIS-Desktop 
> window on your desktop, all other stuff (designer, browser, cli etc etc) 
> are already available. 
> 
> Does this sound as a good idea? Please let me/us know... 
> 
> Second step is to find out how to do this :-) 
> 
> Regards, 
> 
> Richard 
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Message: 4 
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2016 00:34:11 -0500 
From: Carlos Cerdán < [hidden email] > 
To: " [hidden email] " < [hidden email] > 
Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] desktop icons on fresh windows 
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Same experience here but... 

*Dear developers,* maybe a short "readme" will be useful to introduce to 
new *lone* Windows user to GRASS and SAGA as other independent GIS 
applications which are useful to QGIS because this last one uses many 
modules of them through Processing (or grass plugin); and explain that it 
is done because those are free software, and one practice in the free 
software community is: if one application can do well a task, then we use 
it and we (well,all of you developers) help to develop this application, or 
make another better one, or make plugins, documentation, etc. 

That is more or less that I say to new users (all of them Windows users) 
and they were always surprised about the idea of free software 
collaboration. I also talk about QGIS browser; about GRASS and his raster 
skills; about Qt designer, Msys... and after that, we "clean" the desktop 
and left just "QGIS desktop" and QGIS browser. 

So... What do you think about a short "readme" with some explanation about 
why other applications were installed with QGIS in Windows? (and Mac?), and 
why Linux users must install GRASS and SAGA with QGIS. 

Best whishes 

Carlos Cerdán 

2016-01-22 17:40 GMT-05:00 Michael Treglia < [hidden email] >: 

> Hi Richard, 
> 
> I think that's a good suggestion, as I've had the exact same experience 
> with new users (and it creates some desktop clutter). 
> 
> As a regular QGIS user, I actually tend to remove the icons other than 
> qgis desktop and open up anything else I need via start menu or command 
> line. 
> 
> 
> Thanks! 
> Cheers, 
> mike 
> 
> On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 4:07 PM, Richard Duivenvoorde < [hidden email] 
> > wrote: 
> 
>> Hi Users, 
>> 
>> I've installed QGIS for other beginning QGIS users recently. 
>> 
>> And almost 8 out of 10 are overwhelmed with the number of icons that are 
>> place on their desktop, and do not know which one to 'start'. 
>> 
>> What about with a fresh windows install ONLY place th QGIS-Desktop 
>> window on your desktop, all other stuff (designer, browser, cli etc etc) 
>> are already available. 
>> 
>> Does this sound as a good idea? Please let me/us know... 
>> 
>> Second step is to find out how to do this :-) 
>> 
>> Regards, 
>> 
>> Richard 
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Message: 5 
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2016 09:26:32 +0100 
From: Paolo Cavallini < [hidden email] > 
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Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] desktop icons on fresh windows 
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Il 23/01/2016 06:34, Carlos Cerdán ha scritto: 

>         Does this sound as a good idea? Please let me/us know... 

Agreed, thanks. maybe just add a startup tip? 

-- 
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Message: 6 
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2016 10:49:50 +0100 
From: "Bernd Vogelgesang" < [hidden email] > 
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Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] desktop icons on fresh windows 
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Am 23.01.2016, 09:26 Uhr, schrieb Paolo Cavallini < [hidden email] >: 

> Il 23/01/2016 06:34, Carlos Cerdán ha scritto: 
> 
>>         Does this sound as a good idea? Please let me/us know... 
> 
> Agreed, thanks. maybe just add a startup tip? 
> 
I think there is sooo much space left on the landing page of qgis.org , 
that a little summary article explaining those things mentioned by Carlos 
would be nice. 
Now you land there and you have the choice to dowload QGIS. Well, but what 
is QGIS and its environment, who creates it and how do things paly 
together? 

I know, this style of pages is now very modern and pure, but people have 
to search for every bit of information by themselves and gather the bits 
to get the "big picture". 

Doing this in a startup tip is not wrong, but thats actually too late 
cause then people already have QGIS installed with all those strange 
things appearing on desktop etc. 

So now, when people ask me what all the stuff is good for, I always say " 
Ah, just ignore it", cause it's too tiresome to explain that stuff again 
and again (which the guys will forget a second later anyway) 

Just my 2 cents 
Bernd 


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Message: 7 
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2016 11:41:32 +0100 
From: Richard Duivenvoorde < [hidden email] > 
To: [hidden email] 
Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] desktop icons on fresh windows 
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Good idea! 

Ok, what about adding a section: "What is installed" 
below the installation section of 
http://docs.qgis.org/testing/en/docs/user_manual/introduction/getting_started.html#installation 

I think it is better in the documentation the on the website. 
I'm happy to add some lines of text and a line, pointing to this 
section, eg below the Get the installer button on 

http://qgis.org/en/site/forusers/index.html 

Please add the section, do not count on others! Just push this link: 

https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Documentation/edit/master/source/docs/user_manual/introduction/getting_started.rst 

Try :-) It will create a fork, you can edit in the editor of Github and 
you will create a pull request. 

NOW is the time. The doc team is busy writing the 2.14 docs... 

Regards, 

Richard 

On 23-01-16 10:49, Bernd Vogelgesang wrote: 
> Am 23.01.2016, 09:26 Uhr, schrieb Paolo Cavallini < [hidden email] >: 
> 
>> Il 23/01/2016 06:34, Carlos Cerdán ha scritto: 
>> 
>>>         Does this sound as a good idea? Please let me/us know... 
>> 
>> Agreed, thanks. maybe just add a startup tip? 
>> 
> I think there is sooo much space left on the landing page of qgis.org , 
> that a little summary article explaining those things mentioned by 
> Carlos would be nice. 
> Now you land there and you have the choice to dowload QGIS. Well, but 
> what is QGIS and its environment, who creates it and how do things paly 
> together? 
> 
> I know, this style of pages is now very modern and pure, but people have 
> to search for every bit of information by themselves and gather the bits 
> to get the "big picture". 
> 
> Doing this in a startup tip is not wrong, but thats actually too late 
> cause then people already have QGIS installed with all those strange 
> things appearing on desktop etc. 
> 
> So now, when people ask me what all the stuff is good for, I always say 
> " Ah, just ignore it", cause it's too tiresome to explain that stuff 
> again and again (which the guys will forget a second later anyway) 
> 
> Just my 2 cents 
> Bernd 
> 
> 



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Message: 8 
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2016 12:00:20 +0100 
From: Mats Elfström < [hidden email] > 
To: [hidden email] 
Cc: " [hidden email] " < [hidden email] > 
Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] desktop icons on fresh windows 
Message-ID: < [hidden email] > 
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Hi! 
It is not uncommon that software asks politely for permission to add desktop icons. That is one suggestion. 
Another is to create a Qgis icon folder in the startup tree where the seldom used icons can be put in a sub folder under the standard Qgis desktop and browser icons. 
The icon folder should be named after the Qgis version, with a user option to rename it. 
This is how FME has done for years, which also incidently makes it easy to keep and adress parallel installations of a couple of older versions, as a precaution against disruptive bugs. 
I know of no other software that needs to explain what has been installed. 

Hälsning / Regards 
Mats.E 

Skickat från min / Sent from my iPhone, Ursäkta att jag är kortfattad / Excuse my brevity. 

> 22 jan. 2016 kl. 23:07 skrev Richard Duivenvoorde < [hidden email] >: 
> 
> Hi Users, 
> 
> I've installed QGIS for other beginning QGIS users recently. 
> 
> And almost 8 out of 10 are overwhelmed with the number of icons that are 
> place on their desktop, and do not know which one to 'start'. 
> 
> What about with a fresh windows install ONLY place th QGIS-Desktop 
> window on your desktop, all other stuff (designer, browser, cli etc etc) 
> are already available. 
> 
> Does this sound as a good idea? Please let me/us know... 
> 
> Second step is to find out how to do this :-) 
> 
> Regards, 
> 
> Richard 
> _______________________________________________ 
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Message: 9 
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2016 12:31:59 +0100 
From: emmexx < [hidden email] > 
To: 'qgis-user ML' < [hidden email] > 
Subject: [Qgis-user] crash loading missing wfs connection 
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I created a wfs connection to a geoserver in qgis 2.10. 
Now the geoserver is not working anymore. 
I start qgis and it crashes after loading the gui. 

The following is in the terminal where I started qgis: 

Warning: loading of qgis translation failed 
[/usr/share/qgis/i18n//qgis_en_US] 
Warning: loading of qt translation failed 
[/usr/lib/qt/translations/qt_en_US] 
Warning: QObject: Cannot create children for a parent that is in a 
different thread. 
(Parent is QgsNetworkAccessManager(0x9004768), parent's thread is 
QThread(0x8ed5218), current thread is QThread(0x997ca40) 
Warning: QObject: Cannot create children for a parent that is in a 
different thread. 
(Parent is QgsNetworkAccessManager(0x9004768), parent's thread is 
QThread(0x8ed5218), current thread is QThread(0x997ca40) 
Warning: QObject: Cannot create children for a parent that is in a 
different thread. 
(Parent is QgsNetworkAccessManager(0x9004768), parent's thread is 
QThread(0x8ed5218), current thread is QThread(0x997ca40) 
Segmentation fault 

I use slackware 14.1 

Is this a bug? 

Is it possible to delete the defunct connection from 
.config/QGIS/QGIS2.conf ? 

Thank you 
        maxx 


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Message: 10 
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2016 12:54:00 +0100 
From: Matthias Kuhn < [hidden email] > 
To: [hidden email] 
Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] crash loading missing wfs connection 
Message-ID: < [hidden email] > 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 

Hi maxx, 

QGIS 2.10 is no longer supported. 

If you can reproduce this with the latest LTR (QGIS 2.8) release, latest 
regular release (QGIS 2.14) or development version (master), please let 
us know. This would be highly appreciated. 

Matthias 

On 01/23/2016 12:31 PM, emmexx wrote: 
> I created a wfs connection to a geoserver in qgis 2.10. 
> Now the geoserver is not working anymore. 
> I start qgis and it crashes after loading the gui. 
> 
> The following is in the terminal where I started qgis: 
> 
> Warning: loading of qgis translation failed 
> [/usr/share/qgis/i18n//qgis_en_US] 
> Warning: loading of qt translation failed 
> [/usr/lib/qt/translations/qt_en_US] 
> Warning: QObject: Cannot create children for a parent that is in a 
> different thread. 
> (Parent is QgsNetworkAccessManager(0x9004768), parent's thread is 
> QThread(0x8ed5218), current thread is QThread(0x997ca40) 
> Warning: QObject: Cannot create children for a parent that is in a 
> different thread. 
> (Parent is QgsNetworkAccessManager(0x9004768), parent's thread is 
> QThread(0x8ed5218), current thread is QThread(0x997ca40) 
> Warning: QObject: Cannot create children for a parent that is in a 
> different thread. 
> (Parent is QgsNetworkAccessManager(0x9004768), parent's thread is 
> QThread(0x8ed5218), current thread is QThread(0x997ca40) 
> Segmentation fault 
> 
> I use slackware 14.1 
> 
> Is this a bug? 
> 
> Is it possible to delete the defunct connection from 
> .config/QGIS/QGIS2.conf ? 
> 
> Thank you 
>     maxx 
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Message: 11 
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2016 13:00:14 +0100 
From: Richard Duivenvoorde < [hidden email] > 
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Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] crash loading missing wfs connection 
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On 23-01-16 12:31, emmexx wrote: 
> I created a wfs connection to a geoserver in qgis 2.10. 
> Now the geoserver is not working anymore. 
> I start qgis and it crashes after loading the gui. 
> 
> The following is in the terminal where I started qgis: 
> 
> Warning: loading of qgis translation failed 
> [/usr/share/qgis/i18n//qgis_en_US] 
> Warning: loading of qt translation failed 
> [/usr/lib/qt/translations/qt_en_US] 
> Warning: QObject: Cannot create children for a parent that is in a 
> different thread. 
> (Parent is QgsNetworkAccessManager(0x9004768), parent's thread is 
> QThread(0x8ed5218), current thread is QThread(0x997ca40) 
> Warning: QObject: Cannot create children for a parent that is in a 
> different thread. 
> (Parent is QgsNetworkAccessManager(0x9004768), parent's thread is 
> QThread(0x8ed5218), current thread is QThread(0x997ca40) 
> Warning: QObject: Cannot create children for a parent that is in a 
> different thread. 
> (Parent is QgsNetworkAccessManager(0x9004768), parent's thread is 
> QThread(0x8ed5218), current thread is QThread(0x997ca40) 
> Segmentation fault 
> 
> I use slackware 14.1 
> 
> Is this a bug? 
> 
> Is it possible to delete the defunct connection from 
> .config/QGIS/QGIS2.conf ? 

Yes you can delete the 'connections-wfs' lines, then these saved 
connection will be gone. 

I 'think' however, that it will still be around in your project file 
(though you can edit that one too... to remove it). 

But as Matthias says: it would be good to see if it occurs in newer 
versions too, because then.... it's a bug 

So is it a special/public wfs, can you give the connection url? 
Or is it a local one, which you run yourself? 

Anyway, plz let us know if it is still a problem in a recent version. 

Regards, 

Richard 



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Message: 12 
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2016 15:45:59 +0100 
From: emmexx < [hidden email] > 
To: [hidden email] 
Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] crash loading missing wfs connection 
Message-ID: < [hidden email] > 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed 

Il 01/23/2016 01:00 PM, Richard Duivenvoorde scrisse: 
> Yes you can delete the 'connections-wfs' lines, then these saved 
> connection will be gone. 

Connections deleted and qgis starts. 

> 
> I 'think' however, that it will still be around in your project file 
> (though you can edit that one too... to remove it). 

My file has the right connection. 

> 
> But as Matthias says: it would be good to see if it occurs in newer 
> versions too, because then.... it's a bug 

I'll try. Slackware packages are updated not very frequently. 

> 
> So is it a special/public wfs, can you give the connection url? 
> Or is it a local one, which you run yourself? 

You don't need a specific connection. You can just add a non existent 
connection to your QGIS2.conf file. 

My problem surfaced when I temporarily disabled the production geoserver 
to run a test. I installed on the server a different geoserver version 
in a different folder. I connected QGIS to this server, run the test and 
enabled the production server. 
The production server url was: 
http://publicip:8080/geoserver/wfs 
The test server: 
http://publicip:8080/gs281/wfs 

Qgis started to crash after deleting the test server. 

I'll report on other qgis versions as soon as I can. 

thank you 
        maxx 




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Message: 13 
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2016 20:46:41 +0100 
From: Richard Duivenvoorde < [hidden email] > 
To: emmexx < [hidden email] >, [hidden email] 
Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] crash loading missing wfs connection 
Message-ID: < [hidden email] > 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 

On 23-01-16 15:45, emmexx wrote: 

>> So is it a special/public wfs, can you give the connection url? 
>> Or is it a local one, which you run yourself? 
> 
> You don't need a specific connection. You can just add a non existent 
> connection to your QGIS2.conf file. 
> 
> My problem surfaced when I temporarily disabled the production geoserver 
> to run a test. I installed on the server a different geoserver version 
> in a different folder. I connected QGIS to this server, run the test and 
> enabled the production server. 
> The production server url was: 
> http://publicip:8080/geoserver/wfs 
> The test server: 
> http://publicip:8080/gs281/wfs 

Tried to reply your scenario here with latest master: 
- one 2.8 geoserver on 8080, layer foo 
- one 2.6 geoserver on 8080 without layer foo 
- starting qgis with 2.8/foo 
- while layer loaded, stop 2.8 and start 2.6 
- no problems, only I miss data (off course) 

I cannot reproduce it, BUT plz try yourself, maybe it has something to 
do with certain settings (like OTF yes/no, special crs, multithreaded 
rendering etc etc). 

Regards & keep testing the upcoming 2.14 :-) 

Regards, 

Richard 


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