[Qgis-user] Ubuntu updating instructions

[Randal Hale]

I don't think it's necessarily ignorance - the word unstable means "no 
stable; not firm or firmly fixed; unsteady" [1]. At my old place of 
employment software that was in any way related to the work "unstable" 
would never get installed or tested.

UbuntuGIS-unstable isn't unstable. BUT - it has that word associated 
with it. It is confusing for users. If we told the windows users to grab 
their installation files from a directory labeled *unstable* there would 
be much unhappiness.

[1] http://www.dictionary.com/browse/unstable



On 09/13/2016 10:51 AM, Blumentrath, Stefan wrote:
>
> And if I may add:
>
> Even if the users are aware of the fact that ubuntugis-unstable 
> contains the current releases, it can be hard to impossible to 
> convince a GIS-ignorant system administrator that it is OK to install 
> “unstable” packages.
>
> But this issue is not a QGIS issue I guess...
>
> *From:*Qgis-user [mailto:qgis-user-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] *On Behalf 
> Of *Randal Hale
> *Sent:* 13. september 2016 16:45
> *To:* qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Qgis-user] Ubuntu updating instructions
>
> On 09/13/2016 10:23 AM, Jürgen E. Fischer wrote:
>
>     Hi Randal,
>
>     On Tue, 13. Sep 2016 at 00:21:21 -0400, Randal Hale wrote:
>
>         It's a little bit confusing. There are like three repositories:
>
>         stable, unstable, and testing. Testing you don't want (unless you
>
>         want to test packages). Typically stable is a bit older. Unstable is
>
>         current. Which doesn't really make sense - but that's the way it is.
>
>     Not like it matters much in this case.
>
>     We have packages in qgis.org/debian/ against the plain versions of the
>
>     distributions (debian and **ubuntu**) and in qgis/ubuntugis/ packages against
>
>     newer dependencies from - and only from - ubuntugis-unstable.
>
>     Looks like it's hard for people to accept that there are also ubuntu packages
>
>     in a directory called debian and that probably makes them jump on the other
>
>     because it has ubuntu in it's name.
>
> I was thinking about it last night (and I was up way to late) and it 
> is a bit confusing for the casual user. They've installed Ubuntu (or 
> mint/debian/xubuntu/etc) and they may not understand ubuntu is based 
> off debian. So like you said - they see debian but want to use Ubuntu. 
> They go to UbuntuGIS and they see the repositories for UbuntuGIS and 
> the choice is unstable (and no one likes unstable software) and stable 
> (which doesn't contain the newest software). So you end up going "Use 
> Unstable because it's stable and current".
>
>         Under my /etc/apt/sources.list.d directory I made a qgis.list file
>
>         and put the following in there:
>
>         debhttp://qgis.org/debian  xenial main
>
>         debhttp://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntugis/ubuntugis-unstable/ubuntu  xenial main
>
>     Why?  That are the packages not based on ubuntugis with the dependencies from
>
>     ubuntugis.
>
> Do I have this wrong? I thought I had the repositories for the install 
> correct based off the directions on qgis.org. Which I could completely 
> have it wrong. With the above repos I'm getting QGIS 2.16.x and GDAL 
> 2.1.x.
>
>     Jürgen
>
>
>
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