[Qgis-user] QGOS maps fort Garmin GPS

Sun Mar 5 14:41:38 PST 2017

Hey Stephan,

   This discussion may belong on the OSM-Canada mailing list 
(https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca) so others can comment.

   All maps contain errors, some intentional, others by mistake, and 
still others due to the passage of time.  The great thing about OSM is 
you can correct them!  The OSM community holds local knowledge in very 
high regard, and one of the basic guidelines is "If you think the data 
is wrong, change it."  I find the quality of the data very good, perhaps 
due to the majority of the editors have a passion for mapping.

   I had a look at Joe Smith Creek in OSM.  It was imported from Canvec 
v10 (the Fed 1:50k data), and named the same on the BC 1:20k sheet. If 
you like, I could change the name...

Best Regards,
Brent Fraser

On 3/5/2017 2:01 PM, Stephen Wandling wrote:
> Phil,
>
> For a government mapping agency to have a problem, it first has to 
> exist.  I am told that in 1992, British Columbia dismantled it's 
> cartography department and fired all of the cartographers.  I am also 
> told that no work had been done on any of the 20K maps in the prior 10 
> years.  So, only the private resource extraction corporations have 
> access to up-to-date digital data and at a price that I certainly can 
> not afford.
>
> I had a look at OSM mountain biking maps last night, your second link 
> below.  I could see that someone had probably 'walked' what they 
> thought was Joe Smith Creek with their GPS, and extended what had been 
> on the base map.  First, that is Molyneux creek and not Joe Smith, the 
> base map was wrong and secondly that creek comes from a large number 
> of forks up the mountain, so they only dealt with a small percentage 
> of it's reach.  My immediate thought was "This is Wikipedia for 
> Cartography!".  Errors laid upon errors. No use of local knowledge or 
> the Streams shape files available on the Regional District's site.
>
> That is a can of worms I am not interested in delving into.
>
> Cheers,
> Stephen
>
> On 04/03/2017 8:28 PM, Phil (The Geek) Wyatt wrote:
>> No problems Stephen,
>>
>> Unfortunately many government agencies can't keep up with edits of 
>> new tracks/trails but that is the beauty of Open Street Map. Your 
>> contribution, by adding tracks, means that all the folks making 
>> derivative products get the benefits. You also get the benefit of 
>> their knowledge in the creation of products to suit your GPS. Indeed 
>> you can even use OSM mapping as a background in QGIS so you get the 
>> same benefits immediately.
>>
>> If you have some GPS files, drop me a few and I will get them loaded 
>> for you to get you started.
>>
>> The Mountain bike community are quite active in some areas and have 
>> great wiki information on tagging for trails
>>
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mountain_biking
>>
>> https://openmtbmap.org/
>>
>> Cheers - Phil
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Stephen Wandling [mailto:swandling at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Sunday, March 5, 2017 12:14 PM
>> To: Phil (The Geek) Wyatt
>> Cc: qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org
>> Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] QGOS maps fort Garmin GPS
>>
>> Phil,
>>
>> Someone suggested the same OSM approach in an off list email. Here 
>> was my response:
>>> I have just taken a look at OSM, and the maps there, for my area of
>>> interest, are taken from the ancient (pre 1992) British
>>> Columbia/Canada maps that are very incomplete and riddled with errors.
>>> It is because there are no accurate maps of this area that I resumed
>>> my struggles with GIS and have been making maps and having them
>>> plotted.
>> The areas I am creating maps for are entirely forest areas, with 
>> streams, trails, roads, parks and that is about it.  No buildings, 
>> streets, etc.
>>
>> In the last 20 years or so the mountain bikers and hikers, have put 
>> in and documented hundreds of kilometers of trails along this coast.  
>> The OSM maps have a single digit percentage of what is here now.  And 
>> many they do have have been obliterated by clear cut logging operations.
>>
>> I have been making simple maps, that meet my needs, and having them 
>> plotted at a local facility for $15 each, which is cheaper than the 
>> incomplete/error ridden maps that one can purchase.  I use these maps 
>> to travel through this area on foot.
>>
>> Now I wanted a better map for my GPS.  So far, no luck.
>>
>> Stephen
>>
>> On 04/03/2017 4:28 PM, Phil (The Geek) Wyatt wrote:
>>> Depending on the size of the area involved and how 'custom' your maps
>>> are likely to be you may be better off looking at solutions from OSM.
>>> There are many sites that create files suitable for Garmin GPS
>>>
>>> http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl/
>>>
>>> If the areas are small you could also create KMZ (Google Earth 
>>> Files) and transfer them to your garmin device. These can be created 
>>> in QGIS. Look at the plugin GarminCustomMap.
>>>
>>> Cheers - Phil
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Qgis-user [mailto:qgis-user-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf
>>> Of Stephen Wandling
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 5, 2017 11:03 AM
>>> To: qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org
>>> Subject: [Qgis-user] QGOS maps fort Garmin GPS
>>>
>>> I am running QGIS 2.18.3 and am at a very early learning stage.  I 
>>> wish to create simple maps, with 2 or 3 shape files for my Garmin 
>>> GPSMaps 76CSx.  This map would consist of Trails and Streams shp 
>>> files and maybe Contours.  It would also be accepted by Mapsource 
>>> and Base Camp.
>>>
>>> There were some tutorials that seemed like they were what I wanted, 
>>> but they all failed in one regard or another: 1.) They were using an 
>>> 'ancient' version of qgis.  2.) The maps they produced worked in 
>>> just about every Garmin GPS except the one I own.  3.) They use a 
>>> plug-in with a disclaimer that it will demolish my data.  There were 
>>> other issues, but my memory fails me.
>>>
>>> If someone out there is familiar with my situation (and possibly has 
>>> the same GPS) and can either point me to a site I missed, or outline 
>>> the steps for me, I would be grateful.
>>>
>>> [If it is easier to do in ArcMap, I have access to the ESRI software
>>> also.]
>>>
>>> Please keep in mind that while I have a general idea about GIS work 
>>> and have been making some maps, for plotting, that satisfy my needs, 
>>> I get very lost when I am subjected to acronyms and technical 
>>> jargon.  If is not clear and straightforward, it will probably be 
>>> wasted on me.
>>>
>>> TIA,
>>> Stephen
>>>
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