[Qgis-user] QGIS 3.4 macOS still doesn't install GRASS properly, ... 'sigh...'

Mr. Stace D Maples stacemaples at stanford.edu
Wed Oct 31 11:13:22 PDT 2018


Also, this:

We regret that we cannot accept ‘earmarked’ funding as it creates many administrative issues. If you are interested in funding specific aspects of QGIS development, we encourage you to allocate additional human resources to the project, e.g. hiring a developer, or participating to our bug fixing initiative.


Seems to preclude the possibility of funding a proper macOS installer, directly.

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From: Qgis-user <qgis-user-bounces at lists.osgeo.org> on behalf of "Mr. Stace D Maples" <stacemaples at stanford.edu>
Date: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 11:11 AM
To: Paolo Cavallini <cavallini at faunalia.it>, Régis Haubourg <regis.haubourg at gmail.com>
Cc: QGIS list <qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org>
Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS 3.4 macOS still doesn't install GRASS properly, ... 'sigh...'

Yes, I have contacted Andreas Neumann directly with no response.

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"I have a map of the United States... actual size.
It says, "Scale: 1 mile = 1 mile."
I spent last summer folding it."
-Steven Wright-


From: Paolo Cavallini <cavallini at faunalia.it>
Date: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 11:10 AM
To: "Mr. Stace D Maples" <stacemaples at stanford.edu>, Régis Haubourg <regis.haubourg at gmail.com>
Cc: QGIS list <qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org>
Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS 3.4 macOS still doesn't install GRASS properly, ... 'sigh...'

Have you tried e.g. https://qgis.org/en/site/getinvolved/governance/sponsorship/sponsorship.html#qgis-sponsorship-program ?
Cheers.
Il 31 ottobre 2018 18:59:45 CET, "Mr. Stace D Maples" <stacemaples at stanford.edu> ha scritto:
“If you have any fund or developers available, please contribute back. ”

Again, we’d love to know how to do this, and who to contact directly for some actual results. We’ve tried. No one seems to be interested beyond suggesting that we contribute.

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"I have a map of the United States... actual size.
It says, "Scale: 1 mile = 1 mile."
I spent last summer folding it."
-Steven Wright-


From: Régis Haubourg <regis.haubourg at gmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 10:57 AM
To: "Mr. Stace D Maples" <stacemaples at stanford.edu>
Cc: Ian Turton <ijturton at gmail.com>, QGIS list <qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org>
Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS 3.4 macOS still doesn't install GRASS properly, ... 'sigh...'

I don't think anger and rage are in any way a way to change things.

Especially right after a release sprint with so much effort by so much people.

Coming back to the real topic, MacOS really lacks funds to support packaging. It is way more difficult to package and solve some issues on MacOS. I have seen a lot of people working hard on having it running correctly, and it is NOT easy.
If you have any fund or developpers available, please contribute back.

Thanks
Régis

Le mer. 31 oct. 2018 à 18:46, Mr. Stace D Maples <stacemaples at stanford.edu<mailto:stacemaples at stanford.edu>> a écrit :
To be fair, Esri doesn’t claim to run on a Mac.

Also, we’ve reached out numerous times to QGIS.org and others trying to find out how to fund this, with total silence from everywhere, including this list. So there’s that.

Is it really a put up or shut up issue when you are releasing this as a stable release? Really?


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"I have a map of the United States... actual size.
It says, "Scale: 1 mile = 1 mile."
I spent last summer folding it."
-Steven Wright-


From: Ian Turton <ijturton at gmail.com<mailto:ijturton at gmail.com>>
Date: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 10:30 AM
To: "Mr. Stace D Maples" <stacemaples at stanford.edu<mailto:stacemaples at stanford.edu>>
Cc: QGIS User List <qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org<mailto:qgis-user at lists.osgeo.org>>
Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] QGIS 3.4 macOS still doesn't install GRASS properly, ... 'sigh...'

To be fair you can't run ESRI on a mac either, but this is basically a put up or shut up issue - hire a developer to fix the mac build if you can't do it your self.

Ian

On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 at 17:27, Mr. Stace D Maples <stacemaples at stanford.edu<mailto:stacemaples at stanford.edu>> wrote:
Seriously, we just can’t get a working installer for macOS? It’s just never gonna happen, is that it? I’d love to be able to teach QGIS alongside Esri, but I can tell people to use something that doesn’t work, out of the box. I’ve been trying for 2 days now to get back to a working copy of QGIS3. It’s my fault, of course. I know better than to upgrade, now.  If you aren’t going to test it properly, don’t release it.

Here is what I get when running GRASS tools:

2018-10-31T08:54:25     INFO    GRASS GIS 7 execution console output
         WARNING: Default locale settings are missing. GRASS running with C locale.

         Starting GRASS GIS...

         ERROR: Path '//' doesn't exist

         Default locale not found, using UTF-8

         Exiting...

         WARNING: Default locale settings are missing. GRASS running with C locale.

         Starting GRASS GIS...

         ERROR: Path '//' doesn't exist

         Default locale not found, using UTF-8

         Exiting...



Yes, I read the ReadMe and followed the instructions
Yes, I’ve added the ENV variables
Yes, I’ve scrubbed everything and done a clean install (several times)
Yes, I even tried the futile installation of the GRASS “required frameworks” which seem to be the only solutions anyone is able to suggest on StackExchange.
Yes I tried installing GRASS on it’s own and pointing to it from the processing settings, which didn’t work.

Perfectly open to suggestions that DON’T involve any of the above.


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"I have a map of the United States... actual size.
It says, "Scale: 1 mile = 1 mile."
I spent last summer folding it."
-Steven Wright-

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